For discussion about setting up your studio and advice on the gear and equipment within it.
By Recks1 Tue Dec 09, 2003 9:57 am
hey all,

Im starting to make beats and am wondering what type of equipment to get. im a DJ so ive already got turns and a mixer, but was just wondering what type of production tools i need. I went to my Hi Tech shop and the dude tryed to sell me a Roland mv8000, are these good or should i get a MPC. If an MPC, what kind? and also what add ons will i need, i know i need memory but what else. Thanks for ya time im sure you get heaps of newbie questions like this but bare with me :lol:

Shot.
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By Gambles Tue Dec 09, 2003 1:28 pm
Dont get the Roland MV8000. If your starting out I would suggest the MPC 1000. It's a great starting tool and not to expensive. The MPC series are great production tools and have one of the best sequencers I've worked with.


Uno/1
:wink:

gams
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yo

By FromthePantoL.A. Tue Dec 09, 2003 3:23 pm
I don't know much about the mpc 1000.
That is , I've never actually seen one in person , much less USE one.
I was in the same boat as you before , meaning that I am actually a dj who decided to make his own beats. There was no MPC back when I started out though. Anyway , I'd leave the roland alone and grab the mpc 2000xl. Like I said , I've never used the 1000 , although I'm sure it's cool.
My experience with the 2000xl is as follows :
After years of spending LOTS of my hard earned cash in the studio at $30-$55 per hour , in what was usually 8 hour sessions , I FINALLY wised up and bought some more expensive equipment. I mean , I'd already had several different drum machines , multiracks , lower priced keyboards and keyboard samplers such as the casio sk1. I was able to make nice enough beats on them but they still left me wanting more. Like most of the people on here , I was broke as shlt and the thought of spending over $500 on anything that I couldnt drive scared the shlt outta me. Not to mention the fact that I wasnt exactly swimming in cash. Well , as time went on , with me making beats for myself as well as other artists in the studio , I realized that in one of my 8 hour sessions I had spent enough to buy a piece of equipment. Now , like yourself , I didnt know how to USE that equipment but I figured if it's MINE , I have all the time in the world to learn. When you do the math $30 x 8 =$240. That coulda brought me a nice used emax sampler! Just like the one I was PAYING the studio to use! I studied up. Found out what machines can do what and also what the pros were saying about it. The time came when I got hit off for a couple of projects and I picked up an mpc 2000xl. I drove 50 miles to get it and 50 miles back home. I got home at 8pm and turned on the MPC immediately.Read a little of the book , I'd never touched an mpc before , and started making beats. I turned the MPC off at 10 am the next day , quit my full-time job ( I was supposed to be there at 7am!) and went to sleep. I dreamt about the mpc of course. I am not here claiming that I am Premier , Dre , Pete Rock , the RZA or any of those guys. I'm just saying , as a producer , I never had a problem making a beat with whatever was there but NOW!!!!!! Man , I LOVE this machine! I wish everything I paid for gave this kinda feeling back to me. Unlike the drum machines I had , the sounds will NEVER get outdated because I choose the sounds. If you are making beats now or you have with a drum machine then you know what I mean. Even if others like your beats , you get tired of the same old snare and kick sometimes. I have issues with roland knockoffs of the mpc. I've hardly ever heard anything good about them and at the prices they are asking , I dont see what the benefit would be for me or anyone else for that matter , to pay them MORE for that thing , just because it has a cd burner? When I could get the 2000xl and finagle the beat burning other ways and STILL have loot in my pocket. Or a compressor. Or anything else. I heard the sound quality sucks in the roland. Don't just take my word for it though , I mean , you ARE on an mpc board so I dont think many folks will tell you to take the roland over the mpc , not unless you found one for like $200 or something. Go hit the store and test out the mpc , if you can. If not , just pick one up. If you dont like it , you can always return it. I doubt you will though. Just remember , you wont be an expert overnight. I STILL dont know a whole lotta stuff on the mpc and I've had mine for a little over a year now. But , even though there's a lot I dont know , I STILL make beats on it EVERYTIME I turn it on. Plus , one of the best reasons to buy an MPC these days is this very forum. What other production tool has this kind of site where people can come in , not knowing much about the machine they just brought , and learn so much in such a short period of time? I cant think of any. Man I got equipment in here that I cant even get the simple questions answered because the companies I brought it from dont do shlt for their customers and there arent any sites to help out , or at least , if there are , I havent found them and I've BEEN searching. Tutor and the other guys here will help you every step of the way. Shoot , I'll help too whenever I can. Go get that MPC homie and you ever need any help , just holla at ya boys.
That's what this place is all about.
Now just figure out which mpc you need and can afford.
You can do the budget thing yourself but as far as which one is best for you , the guys will probably want to know what else you have in your set-up as far as computer , etc.
Welcome to the club.
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By FromthePantoL.A. Tue Dec 09, 2003 3:32 pm
I didnt mean to write so much. Just had to work up an appetite.
I didnt have breakfast yet.
Well , that and the fact that I LOVE my mpc!
I just cant help yapping about it.
Did I ever tell you about the time.........................
By Recks1 Wed Dec 10, 2003 9:50 am
thanks alot man, ive decided to pick up a mpc 2000xl. i cant wait to start making beats, gonna be dope. im sure ill have questions when they come, its nice knowing there are brothers out there to help.


shot bro :D
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By breakbeat mechanic Wed Dec 10, 2003 10:33 pm
Wow, I was about to read that passage till I realized you posted a complete novel!!!!!!!!!!

I have to go to work too soon!

By Toecutter Fri Dec 12, 2003 7:32 am
I bought an MPC 2000 years ago and never regretted it... it's the best thing since sliced bread...
By D_Samp Sun Dec 14, 2003 12:56 am
FromthePantoL.A. wrote:I didnt mean to write so much. Just had to work up an appetite.
I didnt have breakfast yet.
Well , that and the fact that I LOVE my mpc!
I just cant help yapping about it.
Did I ever tell you about the time.........................



ahaha hurt me you bad man.
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By dj_2xL Tue Dec 16, 2003 9:34 am
FromthePantoL.A. wrote:I don't know much about the mpc 1000.
That is , I've never actually seen one in person , much less USE one.
I was in the same boat as you before , meaning that I am actually a dj who decided to make his own beats. There was no MPC back when I started out though. Anyway , I'd leave the roland alone and grab the mpc 2000xl. Like I said , I've never used the 1000 , although I'm sure it's cool.
My experience with the 2000xl is as follows :
After years of spending LOTS of my hard earned cash in the studio at $30-$55 per hour , in what was usually 8 hour sessions , I FINALLY wised up and bought some more expensive equipment. I mean , I'd already had several different drum machines , multiracks , lower priced keyboards and keyboard samplers such as the casio sk1. I was able to make nice enough beats on them but they still left me wanting more. Like most of the people on here , I was broke as shlt and the thought of spending over $500 on anything that I couldnt drive scared the shlt outta me. Not to mention the fact that I wasnt exactly swimming in cash. Well , as time went on , with me making beats for myself as well as other artists in the studio , I realized that in one of my 8 hour sessions I had spent enough to buy a piece of equipment. Now , like yourself , I didnt know how to USE that equipment but I figured if it's MINE , I have all the time in the world to learn. When you do the math $30 x 8 =$240. That coulda brought me a nice used emax sampler! Just like the one I was PAYING the studio to use! I studied up. Found out what machines can do what and also what the pros were saying about it. The time came when I got hit off for a couple of projects and I picked up an mpc 2000xl. I drove 50 miles to get it and 50 miles back home. I got home at 8pm and turned on the MPC immediately.Read a little of the book , I'd never touched an mpc before , and started making beats. I turned the MPC off at 10 am the next day , quit my full-time job ( I was supposed to be there at 7am!) and went to sleep. I dreamt about the mpc of course. I am not here claiming that I am Premier , Dre , Pete Rock , the RZA or any of those guys. I'm just saying , as a producer , I never had a problem making a beat with whatever was there but NOW!!!!!! Man , I LOVE this machine! I wish everything I paid for gave this kinda feeling back to me. Unlike the drum machines I had , the sounds will NEVER get outdated because I choose the sounds. If you are making beats now or you have with a drum machine then you know what I mean. Even if others like your beats , you get tired of the same old snare and kick sometimes. I have issues with roland knockoffs of the mpc. I've hardly ever heard anything good about them and at the prices they are asking , I dont see what the benefit would be for me or anyone else for that matter , to pay them MORE for that thing , just because it has a cd burner? When I could get the 2000xl and finagle the beat burning other ways and STILL have loot in my pocket. Or a compressor. Or anything else. I heard the sound quality sucks in the roland. Don't just take my word for it though , I mean , you ARE on an mpc board so I dont think many folks will tell you to take the roland over the mpc , not unless you found one for like $200 or something. Go hit the store and test out the mpc , if you can. If not , just pick one up. If you dont like it , you can always return it. I doubt you will though. Just remember , you wont be an expert overnight. I STILL dont know a whole lotta stuff on the mpc and I've had mine for a little over a year now. But , even though there's a lot I dont know , I STILL make beats on it EVERYTIME I turn it on. Plus , one of the best reasons to buy an MPC these days is this very forum. What other production tool has this kind of site where people can come in , not knowing much about the machine they just brought , and learn so much in such a short period of time? I cant think of any. Man I got equipment in here that I cant even get the simple questions answered because the companies I brought it from dont do shlt for their customers and there arent any sites to help out , or at least , if there are , I havent found them and I've BEEN searching. Tutor and the other guys here will help you every step of the way. Shoot , I'll help too whenever I can. Go get that MPC homie and you ever need any help , just holla at ya boys.
That's what this place is all about.
Now just figure out which mpc you need and can afford.
You can do the budget thing yourself but as far as which one is best for you , the guys will probably want to know what else you have in your set-up as far as computer , etc.
Welcome to the club.


wow.......you inspired me to buy another mpc just for the hell of it

By SCI Thu Dec 18, 2003 4:03 am
yea i agree with these ive had my mpc for like a month and u learn new tricks every day i like everything about the mpc2000xl.
By killer joe Thu Dec 18, 2003 6:42 am
yo FromthePantoL.A. - i just got mine and i love it - and u just gave me more incentive to dig in it deeper and make beats on it right away

i had the same exp w/cheaper equip and stuff - except i wasnt going into a studio - but yeah yo i scrounged up enough loot to cop it and now i wanna quit my job too!

yo man i posted in the 2000xl forum....go in and ck it and add your two cents please

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By FromthePantoL.A. Thu Dec 18, 2003 1:28 pm
No doubt.
I'll go check for your post.
By average Thu Dec 18, 2003 4:17 pm
FromthePantoL.A. wrote:I didnt mean to write so much. Just had to work up an appetite.
I didnt have breakfast yet.
Well , that and the fact that I LOVE my mpc!
I just cant help yapping about it.
Did I ever tell you about the time.........................

Inspiring, for real!

By average Thu Dec 18, 2003 4:19 pm
dude got me hype, I'm making a beat right now!
By roxstar Fri Dec 19, 2003 12:26 am
of the mpc is that is really doesn't have many. To learn the very basics may take a few hours to a day, and after that, you learn new tricks to make it sound better. I've had my MPC for 4 years now, and I still learn new things to this day, and when you figure out something new from an old toy, it makes it brand new all over again.
I've never been a fan of roland products (and I have the vs-1880, and roland R8) but the MV-8000 looks interesting. It has a lot of really nice features, but in all honesty, I don't need 90% of that stuff. The only thing I would want added to my 2000XL would be a faster processor (for resampling/timestretching) and real-time modulation.
Don't be impressed with these new drum boxes full with features.. this has been done many times to compete with the mpc, and it hasn't worked (remember the ASR-X, yamaha RSxxx, roland MC-909). They all has more features and still failed. Go with the MPC, it's a safe bet.

. ..roxstar. ..