Talk about the music biz - marketing, promotions, contract law, copyright etc...
By killer joe Mon Aug 08, 2005 2:17 pm
if i was going to meet with a mid-level moderately successfull hip hop or r&b artist - how much should i look to get if they are interested in buying one of my beats?

lets see - by mid level lets say someone like - i dunno - ok lets say "pharoah monch"

not that im meeting with him - but im just using him as an example........or anyone else around that same level - be they singer or emcee

just curious........we're all a bunch of unknowns up here for the most part so im wondering what would be reasonable u kno?
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By DRae2g Mon Aug 08, 2005 9:58 pm
Do you have a manager?
If not you should contact a manager or lawyer.
By killer joe Mon Aug 08, 2005 10:33 pm
but - that still doesn't really answer the question

still - what would someone charge?

whether somebody's playin' the go between or not - how much will the ish sell for?
By killer joe Tue Aug 09, 2005 3:21 pm
i posted similar question in off topic - i dont wanna double post & piss off our moderators

please delete this one guys.........peace

By dknows2 Mon Sep 26, 2005 12:34 am
I was told that the industry minimum is $5,000.00 a couple years ago. They actually address this in an article in the latest issue of Scratch as well. The guy giving the advice there says for a new producer it's between $5,000 and $7,000. Of course most local cats can't pay this amount. The question becomes is it worth it to be on an album that will never receive much attention or record sales? If there is no potential to sell records and you only got $500-$1,000 for the track, (1) you won't see anymore money and (2) will this be credible work to put on your resume. If you're not going to make money on the front or back end or be on an album that everyone recognizes (which will lead to more work), why do it? That's how I decide.
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By DEEPDOWNINSIDE Mon Sep 26, 2005 2:20 am
I just saw a special on MTV2 about Kanye West and he says at the start it was more important that people just bought his beats. He was more into getting his name out there "Yo this kid Kanye West got mad beats!" So he would sell them from a couple hundred to a thousand and some odd dollars. So if you just want to get your name out do that. If youre in the credits then I say sell so that they would comeback to buy more. You dont want them saying "YO this is heat right here, but dam homie U want too much fo this!"
So as Kanye did just see where they are at as far as cash. Then sell your beats accordingly in other words offer them your best stuff for the most and the less hott ones for less. If they like your track they are gonna buy. So save your best for the best who are willing to pay top dollar. But if you sell the HEAT make sure you get your CREDIT, however they may not want to pay as much if you ask for that. Just depends, "gotta pay your dues" first. So make a loads of beats and jus sell as much you can if youre talented im sure you wil be able to keep bringing the"HEAT". :D

By JiggSaw Mon Oct 10, 2005 2:40 pm
DEEPDOWNINSIDE wrote:I just saw a special on MTV2 about Kanye West and he says at the start it was more important that people just bought his beats. He was more into getting his name out there "Yo this kid Kanye West got mad beats!" So he would sell them from a couple hundred to a thousand and some odd dollars. So if you just want to get your name out do that. If youre in the credits then I say sell so that they would comeback to buy more. You dont want them saying "YO this is heat right here, but dam homie U want too much fo this!"
So as Kanye did just see where they are at as far as cash. Then sell your beats accordingly in other words offer them your best stuff for the most and the less hott ones for less. If they like your track they are gonna buy. So save your best for the best who are willing to pay top dollar. But if you sell the HEAT make sure you get your CREDIT, however they may not want to pay as much if you ask for that. Just depends, "gotta pay your dues" first. So make a loads of beats and jus sell as much you can if youre talented im sure you wil be able to keep bringing the"HEAT". :D


Thats some good advice. I never have a set price on my tracks. I always see what kinda budget they're working with, then we negotiate. However, I don't go under $300 no matter what. That applies to just regular local cats. Of course indie labels and such is more.
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By REMIX Mon Oct 10, 2005 5:04 pm
If you out there in the industry with the big boys, then you should have a manager and a lawyer to discuss this with. Only their true input and thought of your potential can say how much your fee will be. If you just doing mixtapes and studio stuff, keep on the grind, because if you can eat off of what you do and get exposure then you r on the right path. It is better to get lil' exposure and eat a little than to not eat at all. Help out your local artist, give the discount. It will only get your name out there, but you have to be consistent. and stay on the grind.
By SV1200 Fri Nov 04, 2005 5:42 pm
I sell my beats according to what beat people want, but seriouslly. Kanye was Right. I sell alot of my beats for like $50 & credits. You can't never sell a beat and expect someone to give you $1,000 u first time out...shit they could go buy there own MP for that. Has to be a progession, even if you have heat, watch out cause there's gonna be someone like me around the way selling for less and making quality beats. Just my 2 cents.

Peace,
SV

www.jimspoolroom.com

By fader-pro Tue Nov 08, 2005 10:12 pm
Just a short story...In 1996 I was introduced to an exec with one of the then booming dot com's. He needed 8 pieces of music 45 seconds long that looped for an internet app. Having no experience with this type of application, I told him i'd get back to him. I went home and called a friend who does some of this stuff and asked him what I should charge....He said to charge about 24 or 25... I called the client and said OK $25,000. The guy said too much, how bout we give you $18,000 and you can keep the rights. Done deal! A few weeks later I was talking with the friend who told me what to quote and he asked me "What did ya get" I told him that broke down and did the gig for $18,000....dude about choked on his lunch - you see, he was suggesting I charge 24 or 25 hundred, not thousand. Ever since then I been shootin for the stars...
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By jonathan morris Tue Nov 08, 2005 11:13 pm
dammmmmn son, get yours.

WOW

Bysicilianos Fri Nov 25, 2005 4:42 am
Just a short story...In 1996 I was introduced to an exec with one of the then booming dot com's. He needed 8 pieces of music 45 seconds long that looped for an internet app. Having no experience with this type of application, I told him i'd get back to him. I went home and called a friend who does some of this stuff and asked him what I should charge....He said to charge about 24 or 25... I called the client and said OK $25,000. The guy said too much, how bout we give you $18,000 and you can keep the rights. Done deal! A few weeks later I was talking with the friend who told me what to quote and he asked me "What did ya get" I told him that broke down and did the gig for $18,000....dude about choked on his lunch - you see, he was suggesting I charge 24 or 25 hundred, not thousand. Ever since then I been shootin for the stars...


Holy **** that is a gift from god. dude even $2500 is still amazing. Are you kidding me? jeez

By indivisibleProductions Sat Nov 26, 2005 5:00 am
i charge between 300-800 for exclusive rights. I'm sure I'd sell alot more beats if I charged less, but I think they're worth about 500 a pop. And shit, just selling 2 at 500 each, is equal to selling 10 at a 100 a pop. Shit, I seen people on soundclick selling some hot beats for like 20 bucks, wtf is the point? I mean, sure the extra exposure is good, but you aint gonna get real respect selling for 20 a pop

By fader-pro Mon Nov 28, 2005 9:32 pm
Gift from god -yes! Ever since I've charged top dollar to work and I turn down work weekly cause theres more than I can do...I actually think raising your price will get you better quality work and more of it...face it, turn a guy down who's offering $2000 for 30 secs of music and he's got to figure out a way to get you on the books next time he needs music cause you must be good if you can turn away scratch like that...The more I work at it - the more opportunity I get to do just the spots I want to do. That translates into a great demo which leads to more work....
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By MARCODANE79 Fri Dec 02, 2005 7:45 am
killer joe wrote:if i was going to meet with a mid-level moderately successfull hip hop or r&b artist - how much should i look to get if they are interested in buying one of my beats?

lets see - by mid level lets say someone like - i dunno - ok lets say "pharoah monch"

not that im meeting with him - but im just using him as an example........or anyone else around that same level - be they singer or emcee

just curious........we're all a bunch of unknowns up here for the most part so im wondering what would be reasonable u kno?


When I first started selling beats in 1992 I use to sell like this: buy one beat for $100.00 get one free, then move to: but three or more beats at $50.00 each, but now it's different. This is just a idea for those of you who are starting out and new to this, but not saying that the way I started is the way to go. peace and good luck 8)