Discuss the various methods you use in music production, from compressor settings to equipment type.
By naschan2 Tue Nov 08, 2005 6:01 am
how u guys program and any suggestions on jazz drumming?
and the way to chop jazzy drum samples?

the jazz drumming is a song always too fast and messed with other sound,
hope u guys can give me suggestions

By dennison Tue Nov 08, 2005 8:24 pm
I think the best thing I can tell you as a jazz enthusiast is to buy some records and listen until you can grasp what they are doing. When I do jazz stuff I turn off all quantize and load up my jazz brush kit pre set on my fantom x. I mess alot with eq and effects to get a nice old dirty drum sound.
By AbstractNoize Tue Nov 08, 2005 9:45 pm
naschan2 wrote:how u guys program and any suggestions on jazz drumming?


Just so I understand. Are you planning on making "straight no chaser" type of jazz music or you asking about using jazz drums (samples) for other music styles.

If you want to know about jazz drumming then I think it´s just like Dennison says. Listen to jazz records. I suggest you look into jazz drumming books aimed at jazz drummers as well just to grasps what it is you are listening to and the drummers role in a jazz band/music.

Jazz drumming is not as similar to normal rock/pop drumming. Lot´s of soloing, syncopation and whatnots so listening to records or whatching drummers do their thing is pretty much your safe bet.

By fader-pro Tue Nov 08, 2005 9:53 pm
Most Jazz drummers use a really slimmed down kit..sometimes with only one tom. I've got a cat recording in my studion now doing jazz with just a single tom and his shyt is tight. Jazz drummers also dont hit the kit as hard as with other genres and sometime but not allways use brushes...

By J-Villa Tue Nov 08, 2005 10:33 pm
i have some experience playing the drums... 'jazz' drumming has a certain 'feel' to it... dennison is right, you have to listen to a lot of jazz music to really understand that 'feel', then use that 'feel' and your creativity to express it [in your own style]...
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By Jacpot Tue Nov 08, 2005 10:45 pm
Dennison I used to do the same thing... Turn off quantise and use the Brush kit on the fantom. Although I recently stopped using drums out of modules and keyboards. They sound corny. Occasionally If I do Ill sample just some hats or rides and rimshots into the MPC to dirty em up a lil bit. The effects are dope on the fantom but I just stear clear of them sounds now. The industry is oversaturated with triton motif and now fantom sounds. Thats why I got back into diggin for all my ish. i got some dope drums
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By itchyvinyl Wed Nov 09, 2005 1:57 am
The thing with straight ahead jazz drumming, is the ride cymbal is the main lead instrument. Everything else is there to add punctuation here and there.
You could sample a ride cymbal loop, and put your own kick and snares under it.
Or you could wait until theres a drum solo, and sample some kick and snare chops from that.

By dennison Wed Nov 09, 2005 7:57 am
:? Jacpot that is a bunch of shit. Drum sounds on the fantom are just wave forms that can be manipulated just like samples, they can be pitched up and down ran through effects and much much more. So saying that drum sounds from all of those boards are played ot is just nonsense. If you think those drums all have been used then you haven't been doing any sound creation. My drums don't sound corny at all and I use %50 fantom drums. With filtering and resampling you can create hundreds of great drums that are your own. If you are having problems with corny drums its not the fantom's fault.
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By Jacpot Wed Nov 09, 2005 8:05 am
I aint got corny drums

By elmacaco Wed Nov 09, 2005 6:53 pm
Damn yall, take it personal. :roll: