When You Use Drum Sounds Do You Use Them In Stereo Or Mono

stereo only if there is a stereo effect such as reverb on it

I do my Kiks in 6.1 THX!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Valdon wrote:what u mean more routing options... Does everybody use mono for a specific reason and why or u guys just do it just to do it... cause u think thats the way its supposed to be cause thats how they used to do it back in the day....

with more routing options i mean instead of putting... say a snare through a stereo compressor, i use the compressor as a double mono compressor
so i can put both a kick and a snare through it... and personally i feel i dont loose any of the drumsounds characteristics this way, exept for it sounding different on left and right channel..

I play with the Stereo Image in wavelab or on my Mackie.
If you turn it down to mono (instead of choosing just one channel) it will also sound harder (mostly).

.toon

I mix left and right to mono when I sample.

Honestly what it is for me is that I don't hear an advantage to sampling them in stereo, I mostly use mono samplers as well, but even in the stereo samplers I've used it never really felt justified. if there is a stereo effect on it that i can;t recreate then it would be something to consider, but I prefer to do the effects myself as well.

what if you are using a loop that has elements of both? IE Bass/Snare/Hats
+ Percussion
>>>>>>>

then id do the same thing-

bass mono
snare mono
hats mono
percussion stereo

greg

Drums in Mono.
Old Samples in Stereo. I then split them and play with the different sounds that way.

The reason for using keeping stereo sample stereo is that when it is time to mix you have the option of keeping it stereo on converting it to mono with 1 mouse click. If u change it to mono before u have a mix going and you later decide stereo might be better you now have to eihter resample the hit, apply effects to get psuedo stereo results or whatever.
Since I mix most of my work I like to give myself options and flexibility. I don't use protools le so i am not limited by tracks. i don't use an mpc for drums so i am not limited by memory. so there is no valid reason for me not to print a stereo hit in stereo. I am all about being efficient and giving myself options. That is why i also print every hit or instrument on its own track.

What Do You Use Beat God

cubase sx 3.1.1 and reason 3

for drums i mostly use redrum in reason
dsq in reaktor 4 (makes sick analog sounds)
battery 2
korg triton studio
drums are very important to me cause i came up as a drummer

i trigger them with my mpc 1000 which i am going to sell because it is useless 4 me and get a trigger finger.

within the next month i will also add a motif es rack and the novation remote sl once they release it cause i am always on the road. will do the x-station if they take too long to release the sl

it depends how you define efficiency beat god.

I like tracking everything out individually as well, but often The things I do to leave options open actually end up costing more and leading to less efficiency. Sometimes you just gotta print and can't leave all the options open, sometimes leaving your options open makes you have too many decisions to make at the end of the process, instead of all along. but I hear you, it depends on how you like to work.

And you might consider keeping the 1000, that new OS is gonna be a monster.

elmacaco wrote:it depends how you define efficiency beat god.

I like tracking everything out individually as well, but often The things I do to leave options open actually end up costing more and leading to less efficiency. Sometimes you just gotta print and can't leave all the options open, sometimes leaving your options open makes you have too many decisions to make at the end of the process, instead of all along. but I hear you, it depends on how you like to work.

And you might consider keeping the 1000, that new OS is gonna be a monster.

i feel what u r saying el, but i just don't make beats for myself to listen to i work with a lot of artists and sometimes they want the smallest changes or i flip songs to fit certain artists. i also have a huge stockpile of beats so to work out all of the parts while i am hyped on the track is nothing. i get bored quick and rarely want to spend time on old beats. i am pretty quick writing track cause i write them in my head first and just use my weapons to execute my thought. i rather spread everything out and allow for flexibility, than trying to fix it while i am mixing. that is just my workflow. i learned a long time ago to not try to write 10 songs in a day. i work on a few ideas and then go hard on what i am really feeling. which means writing the whole beat including intro, bridge, and at least 1 crazy breakdown. plus i either write a hook or all of the lyrics. the artist can use it or not, but at least the get the vibe better than just listening to a beat. the fist beat cd i made had 50 tracks on it. now i send out cd's with 5-8 each month and all have hooks on them.

I hear you loud and clear BG,

The small changes artist want and all that, that's def a concern. Options open when it comes to clients cuz they will ask you for shyt that makes no sense to you

i work on a few ideas and then go hard on what i am really feeling.

That's how I work too, the more I do it the more I realize that I can take any idea to the finish, so selecting what idea really gets me motivated is usually the deciding factor.

Lately I've just been messing with a few alternative techniques and I have found sometimes closing options can be a good thing, particularly when I get to nuendo, where leaving everything separate can become more about obsessive detail for me rather than about actual function in the context of the song.

if the sound doesn't need panning information then I use mono.

if the sample needs movement from left/right/surround then
yes, I use stereo/5.1 surround (AC3).