Staying True

in my opinion, staying true has nothing to do with what **** equipment you use. Meet madlib on the street and see what he has to say, then you can tell if hes true, or just a corny ass flake with a 303.

cyrus wrote:in my opinion, staying true has nothing to do with what **** equipment you use. Meet madlib on the street and see what he has to say, then you can tell if hes true, or just a corny ass flake with a 303.

Well said ,

waxmastawes wrote:hahahaha his beats are wack..hahaha... go play with your claps .. madlib has made all types of different sounding sh*t from club to raw underground sh*t to raggae.. i laugh at u.

O..k keep laughing i guess......
and ohh FYI i said madlib sucks just to get cats riled up(casue i know there are madlib jocky's in this forum)
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well.....i guess we, with these advanced gizmos are more fortuanate than say a Quincy Jones or Prince because of the obscene ammounts of time they had to spend writing notes down on paper(gasp!!), and memorizing sequences to teach other band members( so barbaric!!!) in order to make music.

reading what madlib said just makes me wanna get on the mpc and bang a beat right now, but i've got another 5 hours at work to kill

definitly true of that dusty hiphop sound- wish i could get away with being so minimal

greg

dubmunkey wrote:definitly true of that dusty hiphop sound- wish i could get away with being so minimal

greg

Exaclty, again im not knocking that sound casue thats the roots of hip hop, but its annoyed when cats think thats the only sound that really IS hip hop. TO me that sound has been done to def, time to try new things(thats just my view)

All forms of music evolve, look at the many froms of jazz and classical music. Hip hop is the same way, i jget annoyed when cats are close minded and hate casue your shit dont have the, "cloudy" sound, personally i hate that sound....

binger0 wrote:but his songs arent like crazy advanced. He just uses really good samples. If you use real dope sh*t from the start, then your job becomes that much easier. Anyone can throw some 808s on a beat, filter some ****, and chop some drums, on ANY sampler/groove box, but finding the right **** to loop is why people dig him so much. So for what he is doing yeah he dont need any fancy sh*t. now on the other hand, i dont work that way. i have my own system and tools that i NEED. I sold off all my unessacary gear, like rack samplers and synths so i can just get down to work with the tools im most comfortable with. Thats what you need to do, just try everything till something sticks and then roll with that. Be it reason, or an sp202. Whatever you are most comfortable with and whatever can supppiment that to make your life easier. Music is music at the end of the day so whatevers clever.

digg it

Digg it too.

Smoove03. Feeling your beats bruv Esp Lady Lane.

yeah, he is inspiring, cant doubt that. BUt ive met some people i thought where "stayin true" and where inspiring to me........... After I talked to them, I stopped listening to thier music.

Madlib for sure knows how to intrigue his fans with his good music and with what he uses. BUt I think its more image and perception than anything.

I sure as **** started checkin out the sp303 last night (again) That piece is so cheap, I think i might just try out my skills for the fun of it-a phsycological test................cause god knows with an mpc4000 no corny as sp303 is gonna make my music better(unless of course it is physcological)

maxlifo wrote:Digg it too.

Smoove03. Feeling your beats bruv Esp Lady Lane.

max man thanks really appreciate that

I tend to stick with what I know as far as gear is concerned but sometimes you just have to upgrade. I went from the 60 to the 4k because for what I do, I needed this higher sampling rate. I will buy a new piece of gear however every few years as I get bored or start to feel stale with what I am putting out. Invariably, the new module, guitar, soundbank, keyboard or whatever causes my creativity to "wake up" as I learn the new toy. Usually, I'll end up creating a new piece of music almost entirely with the new instrument as I learn it's various features. When I bought the MPC 4000, I banged out 4 songs and put another 3 beats on the drawing board in less than a month. For me, that makes it an excellent investment...
I have to agree with whoever said you should let your music pay for any new gear you buy though...

cyrus wrote:cause god knows with an mpc4000 no corny as sp303 is gonna make my music better(unless of course it is physcological)

God would say no such thing. the 303 does things that the 4000 can't do, and the interface is all on the panel, so it's simplicity might allow you to make better music.
it's not always about more features.

Beat God wrote:I am not trying to tell people what to do but if u only buy gear with money that has been earned from your production
1. u will be more motivated to address the business end of it
2. that gear will actually serve a purpose

i made that choice 3 years ago and it has worked to my benefit

Having fun is my purpose. It gives me something to do in life outside of drugs, booze etc. That is enough for me. I'm probably not good enough to make money off my stuff. I have had a few beats on some CDs...very small limited runs that went nowhere...but I still keep doing it. I have nothing else I feel like spending my money on. Not into cars, tv, clothes and all that other shat people spend there loot on.

fader-pro wrote:I have to agree with whoever said you should let your music pay for any new gear you buy though...

Then most of us in this forum should quit or should never have started in the first place. A very small percentage of people make money off their music.

Exaclty, again im not knocking that sound casue thats the roots of hip hop, but its annoyed when cats think thats the only sound that really IS hip hop. TO me that sound has been done to def, time to try new things(thats just my view)

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thats the kind of sound i swing to - only cos im really into older music and like that 70's dirt....

but yeah i feel you totally- your talking about a new synth and some cats goes 'y'all trippin'- all you need is some records and an mpc' (conveniently never mention the fact that most hiphop tunes have been professionally mastered) - which is true for old skool hiphop but not true of the myriad of other genres out there....

plus there is the argument- what did you intend to do when you started- mix and match loops hits and pre-existing phrases or actually write a tune-

this isnt taking anything away from pure samplists (i love sample based music) but its a bit different to writing a beat/ bass/ chords from scratch-

id argue that even with just an mpc and records you'd need a mixer and some eq

greg