out of sync? or am I just picky?

sounds like you have the same problem as I do!! (although I do hear how unprecise the midi timing is....)
here's a thread I started some time ago:
http://www.mpc-forums.com/viewtopic.php ... highlight=
....still haven't figured it out....

I find serial midi interfaces more reliable timing wise than USB, but there is some weird timestamp new one hat say are really accurate, but they all say that.

computers in general shift resources around so much that the midi may not get prioritized as it should.

best midi timing I've seen is on an Atari ST.

got the exact same problem as djexpekt.... recording the same tracks, but they sync differently

I got an email from a very good friend and it has been stated that MIDI will ALWAYS never synch correctly due to different Synths and there settings, and offsets from various sounds (e.g. breathing instruments etc..) it was reported by Keyboard magazine years ago in error that it was possible and this myth still continues.

say word.

mmm ok, then it makes sense... or not...

thx mate

Luigi wrote:say word.

mmm ok, then it makes sense... or not...

thx mate

I am with you, that's just what I read.... so for now that's all I can believe.

Depending on setups most Synths are around 4.2ms, so your setup would need to be near this as well. My suggestion is to match another setup HW for HW, that is working, before you can achieve better results.

DAW:
Different PC's
Different Card
etc etc

I put a POLL out and no one has replied...

Some things I found:

http://www.sonymediasoftware.com/forums/ShowMessage.asp?ForumID=19&MessageID=193969

One thing that used to work for me and NEVER failed on HW. When I was using a MTK I used Threshold to set a time for recording, I could record all of my tracks that way seamlessly, so if your DAW offers that it's worth a try.

You are basically automating the same recording features used with midi/synch, except you are more of the midi... But the thing about it is, you don't have to rely on two machines talking to one another and this uses less system resources.... just a random rant....

This what I am going to try:

Track out tracks into Audio Editor, of course set proper bpm, bars etc...

Then open saved wave files into Multi-Tracker with the same tempo map, past them accordingly and then play them back from the beggining/loop...

I will post my results later-

Luigi, see if you can try doing this too or let me know if you discover something different.

ait ima do that

check out djrespect thred, its the same thing, he got pics and all

holla

elmacaco wrote:I find serial midi interfaces more reliable timing wise than USB, but there is some weird timestamp new one hat say are really accurate, but they all say that.

computers in general shift resources around so much that the midi may not get prioritized as it should.

best midi timing I've seen is on an Atari ST.

Yeah i agree with that. The timestamp ones are probably better... that's why they invented the timestamp, because regular type midi interfaces are sh***t. But I haven't tried the timestamp.

With my computer, windows xp and midi 2x2... i saw jitter up to 20ms. That's a lot!!!!! Definitely enough to notice, even with your ear. And yeah you can blame the operating system for that... it wasn't really designed to make music.

Myself I use the mpc to sequence, i just record in audio loops, then fine tune the start points in ableton live. But i couldnt really say if thats the best way.