Technical questions for the MPC2000xl and the MPC2000
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By mrcrappypantson Wed Nov 23, 2005 10:18 pm
I thought this would interest MPC2000 users so I posted this in here. I fired up my S2000 after years of neglect and I'm happy to say that I'm glad I held onto it after all these years. It's a juiced up MPC2K with better filtering and all the fun sampler functions. It's a douche to program in the little screen but dammit, this thing is sick. I've seen them sell on ebay for $30. So if you are looking for a tastey sampler but you're on a budget, an S2000 may suit you. Seriously, MPC sound with more shit = good shit.
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By stryke Wed Nov 23, 2005 10:45 pm
I've done alot of research and decided a long time ago that the s2000 was the way to go in conjunction with the 2k.I'll probably cop one in the next week or so.Glad to see someone with some positive feedback on the s2000.Actually,i've never heard anything bad about it.Good ish.
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By mrcrappypantson Wed Nov 23, 2005 11:54 pm
Perhaps the 3000 and others are easier to use but the sample engines are different. Not that I've ever encountered a bad Akai sample engine though. The S1000, 2000, and 3000 and everything inbetween has an expansion slot for a filter board. Trust me on this, get it. Really smooth sweeps will insue. Great combo with any MPC absolutely. The price on these things are insanely low too.
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By Paul R Thu Nov 24, 2005 12:12 pm
stryke wrote:Actually,i've never heard anything bad about it.Good ish.


Soundonsound say that the interpolation is linear on the 2000, which would mean poorer quality transposition
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By stryke Fri Nov 25, 2005 4:06 am
Paul,i have no idea what that means but it can't be that bad.Can it? ???
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By Paul R Fri Nov 25, 2005 9:53 am
stryke wrote:Paul,i have no idea what that means but it can't be that bad.Can it? ???


it means that samples transposed an octave down will deteriorate in sound quality more than those using a better algorithm, and you might get that 'metallic' sound. Interpolation is how digital applications calculate the re-adjustment of data, similar to making a photoshop image smaller or bigger it can't add or remove pixels so it uses maths to 'fill in' the extra data, with samples it makes the sound file longer as it transposes down

i believe the s1000 uses a 4-pole interpolation algorithm, but those of us with XL's and s2000's have had that power of the sample engine compromised
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By dubmunkey Fri Nov 25, 2005 10:47 am
GOOD SOUND, SOLID MACHINE, NUFF POSSIBILITIES (Stoopid caps) in fact quite a workhorse when you have it maxed out...not really a character sampler but thats often what is needed..

greg
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By mrcrappypantson Fri Nov 25, 2005 2:35 pm
I've never noticed the sound deterioration. Probably there but thats why we all have boners for the the 2000xl also. Artifacts are a beautiful thing if you ask me. I went to software base sampling and felt the results were too clean and lacking character. Bought an 2000xl and broke out the s2000 again and now I'm very content with my sound. I'll give up hardware when they make software samplers with MPC or S series sample algorithims. Seems far fetched and a step backwards for programmers though. ONe day I bet....
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By mrcrappypantson Fri Nov 25, 2005 3:21 pm
Lord Toranaga wrote:there is a software version of the s1000, out there. for pc only.


Really? I never heard of it. Is it made by a reputable company? How does it stand up to the actaul hardware?

That's pretty cool.
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By Paul R Fri Nov 25, 2005 3:32 pm
mrcrappypantson wrote:I've never noticed the sound deterioration. Probably there but thats why we all have boners for the the 2000xl also. Artifacts are a beautiful thing if you ask me. I went to software base sampling and felt the results were too clean and lacking character. Bought an 2000xl and broke out the s2000 again and now I'm very content with my sound. I'll give up hardware when they make software samplers with MPC or S series sample algorithims. Seems far fetched and a step backwards for programmers though. ONe day I bet....


i havn't noticed it either mate, before i got my xl i read an article about sampling in Soundonsound and they had a big lowdown on digital, guess you'd have to be an expert to notice it but it was something that stuck in my mind to look for when choosing a sampler
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By mrcrappypantson Fri Nov 25, 2005 3:42 pm
Paul R wrote:
mrcrappypantson wrote:I've never noticed the sound deterioration. Probably there but thats why we all have boners for the the 2000xl also. Artifacts are a beautiful thing if you ask me. I went to software base sampling and felt the results were too clean and lacking character. Bought an 2000xl and broke out the s2000 again and now I'm very content with my sound. I'll give up hardware when they make software samplers with MPC or S series sample algorithims. Seems far fetched and a step backwards for programmers though. ONe day I bet....


i havn't noticed it either mate, before i got my xl i read an article about sampling in Soundonsound and they had a big lowdown on digital, guess you'd have to be an expert to notice it but it was something that stuck in my mind to look for when choosing a sampler


Right on. Not trying to call you out on a lie or anything. Just never heard that before. It's good info to be aware of. Thanks.