Discuss the various methods you use in music production, from compressor settings to equipment type.

By ripple Thu Nov 24, 2005 6:25 pm
Umm... so somethin like "Mashing on the motorway" would be elevator music?




SHOW ME THE ELEVATOR!!!

By elmacaco Thu Nov 24, 2005 6:31 pm
Hey DT, I've shown plenty of people how to use the MPC, just do a search and you'll see. I owe yall nothing.

Secondly, most hip hop producers use the MPC but don;t get deep with it, or any gear they own really. That's why it's all about presets, and low pass filtering, eqing and that's it. You can use a machine to make great music but still not understand midi, there's no crime in that, but it is what it is. If you think Shadow wired his own studio you are puttin him on a higher pedestal than is realistic.

the MPC is a very powerful machine, and when you understand it there are ways in which to use the design most effectively. Like chaining midi thru's instead of using the multiple midi outs, that's a indication that a person doesn't understand the machine. There are many others, but lets just say that the majority of people using MPC's are prety much DJ's and just need basic functions and just know and use the basics, which is all well and good, but when you see how those cats run their rigs they claim preference but it is clearly ignorance.
Understanding midi is just the price of admission.

PT is less technically critical, and he probably works with an engineer that can explain whatever he needs.

That said, I love his work and hope he keeps making great albums.

By Toecutter Thu Nov 24, 2005 8:47 pm
His name is in the bottom of a BATTERY 2 ad...
It doesn't matter what he uses, the music comes from HIM not the equipment.
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By silverman567 Thu Nov 24, 2005 9:24 pm
endtroducing (you must have heard this!?)...genius
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By Yoshimi Fri Nov 25, 2005 12:39 am
Most people only use 10-20% of their equipments potential. I'd rather they do this and make good music, then make bad music but know everything there is to know about the MPC. It reminds me of the guitarist who will jerk off a billion notes up and down the fretboard in a guitar store to dazzle people...but makes shitty music in a crap band.

By dfacedxa Fri Nov 25, 2005 1:43 am
who cares what he uses. bi tch when you aint feelin his music.

By elmacaco Fri Nov 25, 2005 3:57 am
I was just saying it made sense to me, all the dikriders gotta act like I'm dissing him. I'm not. I know he knows shyt about international politics too, i didn;t say he was wack because of it.

My favorite artists don't use mpc's, it's not an issue for me, but there are reasons people select their gear, if you can't discuss that without trying to defend cats that aren;t being attacked, then smack your mother for me.

Bravo, everybody get protools.

next.
By Dos Fri Nov 25, 2005 7:00 am
techn0 wrote:Dj Shadow stops using his MPC in favor of Pro Tools only rig. Thats just dumb if you ask me, it makes more sense to use both. Its like cutting off your left hand because your able to do more with your right one.

Pro Tools is great, so is Logic 7. I use both, but hey not one of them can replace an MPC. I have an MPC 2000xl and a S950 and with plugins and all i can't get that exact sound in either program.

What a Fool.


http://www.digidesign.com/digizine/dz_m ... 794&next=1


This is a digidesign magazine on the digidesign website!!!!!!
I would take this with a pinch of salt. Anyone who has used the MPC for as long as Shadow is not going to up and start using PT only.
And if he is, it won't be long till he starts using it again.
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By g4s Fri Nov 25, 2005 9:00 am
...that people like us love to read about those using the same equipment. Also, much like Madlib letting people think that he often uses only an SP303, Shadow has traded for years on people thinking that he uses only an MPC. There are 4 pages - and counting - that attest to this.

Akai should have got him on board years ago as, after Roger Linn, he's probably done more for MPC sales than anyone else.

So many people have copied his style that it was inevitable he'd move on.

G4s
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By dubmunkey Fri Nov 25, 2005 9:19 am
greg - how do you spell jaem?
>>>>>>>>>>>

dunno mate, its a made up word- not the same as not understanding the difference between two different words that sound the same :P

greg
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By dubmunkey Fri Nov 25, 2005 9:21 am
Secondly, most hip hop producers use the MPC but don;t get deep with it,
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yup main attraction of the mpc originally was its ease and the fact you could play the drums in by hand with responsive pads- people ecrtainly didnt rave about the step edit features....all abouyt getting instant results without much digging- load samples, set tempo, record beat- done

greg
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By g4s Fri Nov 25, 2005 11:46 am
What's the feeling about your manager getting sacked dubmunkey? Wish we still had Lua Lua but looks like we got the best out of Robert.

G4s
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By dubmunkey Fri Nov 25, 2005 1:04 pm
yeah it was time for perrin to go, he werent doing nuffin- essentially we balme mandaric- the way he treated harry etc...

of course we hate harry now due to all the bullshit he fed us prior to going to scum...

i wish we still had yakubu on ours- he's looking very impressive now he's getting some decent delivery....

we are having a shite start (the complete opposite to how we normally start) so if we cant pick it up it's not looking good...

so your a geordie? dont you guys call your rivals (sunderland) scummers as well?

greg

By drumtrack Fri Nov 25, 2005 1:32 pm
elmacaco wrote:Hey DT, I've shown plenty of people how to use the MPC, just do a search and you'll see. I owe yall nothing.

Secondly, most hip hop producers use the MPC but don;t get deep with it, or any gear they own really. That's why it's all about presets, and low pass filtering, eqing and that's it. You can use a machine to make great music but still not understand midi, there's no crime in that, but it is what it is. If you think Shadow wired his own studio you are puttin him on a higher pedestal than is realistic.

the MPC is a very powerful machine, and when you understand it there are ways in which to use the design most effectively. Like chaining midi thru's instead of using the multiple midi outs, that's a indication that a person doesn't understand the machine. There are many others, but lets just say that the majority of people using MPC's are prety much DJ's and just need basic functions and just know and use the basics, which is all well and good, but when you see how those cats run their rigs they claim preference but it is clearly ignorance.
Understanding midi is just the price of admission.

PT is less technically critical, and he probably works with an engineer that can explain whatever he needs.

That said, I love his work and hope he keeps making great albums.


Oh ok, so you have your sources :) .. I thought you were just jabbering ... it make sence tho cause I have a 30 minute during interview in mp3 from him and to be honest he doesnt sound like the smartest kid in class :?
You can read an interview from him at Remixmag where he kind of sh*ts on the Pro Tools MIDI sequencer. He doesnt like the quantization in Pro Tools but he loves the straight, -without feeling-, quantization on the mpc

By drumtrack Fri Nov 25, 2005 1:39 pm
ripple wrote:Umm... so somethin like "Mashing on the motorway" would be elevator music?




SHOW ME THE ELEVATOR!!!



That track is awesome to listen in the car. This is one of my favorite road tracks 8)
Im flying like Nightrider