Strong Crackings ! A Remedy ?

I don' t speak English very well thus excuse my language not very elegant!!!

With regard to the sampling on Vinyl, I have a question which carries me in heart since many months.

I use an MPC2000Xl SE3, and I sample the vinyl directly by a basic turntable at weak price. When I use for example : of the old men vinyl of before 1960, there are strong crackings...

To decrease them, we know all the DENOISER ! But me, I would like to know if there remains possible to remove the maximum of cracking without external material other that my mpc !

I have also Soundforge 8, which has an option to him "restoration vinyl" but the result chokes too the sound (same by handling this option in all directions). If you could light me, or propose certain solutions to me...

Tks ! Peace from FRANCE

welcome to the boards, man...

okay

are the distortions distracting from the music? because to tell you the truth, if you sample, you're going to have to get use to that snap crackle and pop. the best solution i can tell you is buy other records...and try to get some that "look" in good condition.

another problem could be you not using a preamp before you record into the mpc. Does your turntable have a built in preamp (for example: the numark pt01, or the vestax handytrax)? or is it a regular turntable? if it is anormal turntable, you're going to have to get yourself a preamp or a dj mixer.

hope this helps

- peace

issues

i think this belongs in the production techniques thread,

but to answer your question i say use the EQ cut the highs down maybe filter the sample or record, but if you want try to clean the record with alcohol and some silicon spray (not to much) spray a towelette with some contact cleaner with a silicon base and wipe it down good this cuts down the pops and crackle not completely but you will be able to hear a difference then EQ your records highs and you should have a fairly decent sound.
as for software i'm not sure , i dont really use anything to remove the crackle pop but this technique and my records are pretty clean so ,the little crackle pop it has is soften'd and make them sound like butter.

hope this helps , let me know what you think if you try it.
peace

Embrace the dirt! To me it's a part of the sound of sampling vinyl.

If it's very important to you to have a clean sample, look for a copy in better condition or sample off CD.

there are 4 answers to your problem:

1-you find someone who has a vinyl washing machine and pay him maybe a buck per LP
2-you spend hours in wavelab restorating waveforms and filtering with restoration plugs (waves restoration bundle does this pretty good)
3-you say fukc it and only cop mint wax (suprise, theres a random click on these babies too )
4-you accept the fact that crackling, hissing, cueburn, clicks, pops and all the shabang are things that caracterize most of the black gold we hunt.

To me its a mix of those 4. I use waveform restoring in wavelab that works perfectly!!! This has gotten me out of remedy a few times!!!. I recently met a dude who has a vinyl washing machine, so I guess Ima take some of the precious gems for a bath soon.

.toon

If it's just a few seconds you want to sample and its pops you can allways zoom in and just mute that pop in soundforge.

c.toon wrote:there are 4 answers to your problem:

1-you find someone who has a vinyl washing machine and pay him maybe a buck per LP
2-you spend hours in wavelab restorating waveforms and filtering with restoration plugs (waves restoration bundle does this pretty good)
3-you say fukc it and only cop mint wax (suprise, theres a random click on these babies too )
4-you accept the fact that crackling, hissing, cueburn, clicks, pops and all the shabang are things that caracterize most of the black gold we hunt.

To me its a mix of those 4. I use waveform restoring in wavelab that works perfectly!!! This has gotten me out of remedy a few times!!!. I recently met a dude who has a vinyl washing machine, so I guess Ima take some of the precious gems for a bath soon.

.toon

yo toons man let me kno how that works out ,would like to see if it makes that much of a difference, how big is that machine?
peace

ed, homie. I'm pretty amped to hear how it works too!
But for now the wavelab waveform thingy does the job just great.

here i'll post a shot:


You can see how many samples you selected and then decide which kind of restoration method you want to use. Normal like hifreq tick sounding CLICKS are normally under 1ms. Bigger and more midfrequent clicks similar to those caused by scratches for example are mostly between 1,5 and 5 ms.

It took me half an hour or so to really get it going, but its the best thing I've ever come across. Atleast next to Waves Restoration Bundle, which is not what you want to do if youre on some nerdy audiophile trip But it gets the job done, and to the average music listener/sampler it will be no difference.

E.D., you should ask about a cleaning service at your local digging spots(leave out the dumpster joints )

.toon

yeah i'm going to have to look in to it, i dont reall trip of fixin my samples i like the cracklin, but i just want to restore my records , i use my originals while i spin to so i just some times play a track on another set of needles and they skip, on my trackmasters they don do that but you kno sometime poeple dont want you taking of there needles to play , so you got to use someone else's sh1t and they dont play the same as your neeldes .

but i was wonderin what the size of this machine was so i can look in to purchasin one maybe. ukno

francé represent