Discuss the various methods you use in music production, from compressor settings to equipment type.
Byfunktuary Mon Mar 24, 2003 6:12 pm
I am looking for some good kick drum samples for my 2000xl. I know some people like to make their own, as I have a few times, but I'm looking for some good basic hip-hop kicks (not those noisy, echo-filled/gated type kicks). I already have some great sounds but I've bought a bunch of sorry-ass sample CDs and discs and I want some really good kicks. any recommendations as far as websites who sell sounds at a reasonable price or have them available for download? I've been to sites like eastwest sounds but I don't want to buy a CD without either hearing the sounds first or getting a recommendation from someone.

also, I'm not interested in song samples, just drum sounds. any help would be appreciated.
By sirreal Mon Mar 24, 2003 6:17 pm
I experienced the same problem with finding good drums in general. I was initially just plain lazy and didn't wanna make my own and stumbled across a site called www.banginbeats.com. The samples are clean and probably heard, from my experience, in a host of industry standard production. This is not a sales pitch because I still believe creative control is the best route, but some of the kits they offer are definite bangers, especially for hip hop/rnb/soulful music. Even throw in a few sound fx and instrument samples here and there. Good shopping...

By E.A. Flow Mon Mar 24, 2003 6:50 pm
Sample kicks from old soul records. Trust.

By brainwashcloth Mon Mar 24, 2003 7:30 pm
egokilla's stuff is good. very reasonable prices too.
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By egokilla Mon Mar 24, 2003 8:51 pm
Yeah- I can hook you up with some drums sounds.

I have a "Drum Collection" series that's just drum sounds. No loops. It's currently 5 CD Roms (3,250mb)
The 6th and 7th disc in the series will be released shortly. It's a good deal if you wanna hit me up.

For some free sounds- try these:

http://www.godarchy.com/pollard/eGo/


The first set of files listed as: 1-8 are ES-1 banks and contain about 90 wav files (32khz/Mono) each.

You'll need winrar to extract them.
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By MARCODANE79 Mon Dec 05, 2005 11:32 am
funktuary wrote:I am looking for some good kick drum samples for my 2000xl. I know some people like to make their own, as I have a few times, but I'm looking for some good basic hip-hop kicks (not those noisy, echo-filled/gated type kicks). I already have some great sounds but I've bought a bunch of sorry-ass sample CDs and discs and I want some really good kicks. any recommendations as far as websites who sell sounds at a reasonable price or have them available for download? I've been to sites like eastwest sounds but I don't want to buy a CD without either hearing the sounds first or getting a recommendation from someone.

also, I'm not interested in song samples, just drum sounds. any help would be appreciated.


I understand where you're coming from, but the best thing to do before buying anymore sample cd's try and build your own kicks, snares, and etc. by layer your drums. A cool trick i was given by the experts on here: take a kick and layer it with a shacker, and add a 808 kick and that will give you a stronger and deep sound instead of the thin solo kick. Then if you like you can pan two of the sound right and left or go into the shift f6 and edit the start. adjust to about 6 to 9. try some of these options.

hope this will help.
By roxstar Mon Dec 05, 2005 12:56 pm
" A cool trick i was given by the experts on here: take a kick and layer it with a shacker, and add a 808 kick and that will give you a stronger and deep sound instead of the thin solo kick."

Not to be funny, but I don't know if that's expert advice. If the kick is good to begin with, don't do anything to it. Just use your ears, and layer (if you must) with whatever you need to get the desired sound.
Buying samples may be a good idea for some, but I think the drum sounds you choose in your music are like characters in a movie. Would scarface be the same if chis rock played Al Pachino's part? Would Neptunes, "grindin'" sound the same if he used regular 808 drums? No. So when you buy samples that are pre-made (some-ones else's layered ideas of what a good sound is,) it's like your just taking his 'characters' to make your own movie. This is a weird analogy, but do you feel me? Plain drums give you room to recreate what you need. But if I make up a kit with layered drum sounds ..yes, you can re-layer them, but what if you don't want that shaker sound that I added? You gonna buy another drum kit untill you find what you need? Don't be lazy duke, just sample. It's all part of the game. It's like being a master mechanic and not knowing how to change a tire. Learn as much as you can, even 'some' of the things that you don't necessarily enjoy doing.. Once you can sample correctly, and do your own layering, your gonna save so much money from NOT buying keyboards, modules, and sample cd's just for the drum sounds. In all honestly, I have more fun creating souunds than I do making the music, and that's coming from somene that USED to buy sample cd's and equipment based on it's drum sounds.
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By Paul R Mon Dec 05, 2005 4:38 pm
roxstar wrote: It's like being a master mechanic and not knowing how to change a tire. Learn as much as you can, even 'some' of the things that you don't necessarily enjoy doing.. Once you can sample correctly, and do your own layering, your gonna save so much money from NOT buying keyboards, modules, and sample cd's just for the drum sounds. In all honestly, I have more fun creating souunds than I do making the music, and that's coming from somene that USED to buy sample cd's and equipment based on it's drum sounds.


that's the truth
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By mrcrappypantson Mon Dec 05, 2005 5:14 pm
I read this somewhere. You get some cheezey PC speakers, the ones that have 1/8" ends and plug that into a sampler input. Tap on the woofer of speaker and supposedly you get nice deep thud. Sample it and pitch down for deeper tones. I never tried it but sounds like it would work. Also sounds fun and you'll have a nice story about how you "made" that kick.
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By Jacpot Mon Dec 05, 2005 6:37 pm
Just layer two kicks. If u want it deeper than that than manipulate it when u mix the beat down. Add some lows to give it that thump. All the kicks u hear on the radio have been anhanced during the mixdown. 90% of the kicks you hear on cd's didnt come out of the mpc like that. Mix your beats brotha man
By roxstar Mon Dec 05, 2005 7:17 pm
"I read this somewhere. You get some cheezey PC speakers, the ones that have 1/8" ends and plug that into a sampler input. Tap on the woofer of speaker and supposedly you get nice deep thud."

Just thump your record while it's on the turntable (Needle must be on the record) Try a few different spots till you get it right. When you find the right spot, EQ, and sample. I never heard the PC speaker method. If I ever come across some speakers, I'll try it! :)
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By mrcrappypantson Mon Dec 05, 2005 9:43 pm
Jacpot wrote:Just layer two kicks. If u want it deeper than that than manipulate it when u mix the beat down. Add some lows to give it that thump. All the kicks u hear on the radio have been anhanced during the mixdown. 90% of the kicks you hear on cd's didnt come out of the mpc like that. Mix your beats brotha man


In my experience, it's better to get yo shit to sound the best it can right out of the sampler. Mixing is important but less is more for compression and eqing.
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By Jacpot Mon Dec 05, 2005 10:08 pm
You u got a point thier :idea:
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By mpc4000xl Mon Dec 05, 2005 10:49 pm
KOOL INFO ON THIS POST ALSO TRY ADDING the ATTACK OF A KICK DRUM To A BASS WAVE U May Have To Tweak A Bit But IT Can WORK VERY WELL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!











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