What happened to my mix?

Lampdog wrote:"my mixes always satisfy me"
now, see if you can help someone elses mixes satisfy them big man..
c'mon now cap, we go way back, I know you better than that..

i dont know how to explain it, i just compress each track untill it sounds tight, do the same with a eq, some other weird effects, its always hte same process for me and it always works

Appreciate all the replies.... Yes, since moving etc etc I haven't had much time to spend with these new cans and I hate the learning curve of new ones, albeit new I have had them for a minute - - just not as comfortable with them as my old still getting there... New soundcard as well... The mix is getting much better (looking at the signals) has been helping a lot, solo-ing each track....

I use Audio Technica M40fs... I like them a lot..

Lampdog wrote:cd architect will not give u anything that vegas can't.
vegas is many things AND it IS a bigger and better CD architect also.
waste of time, don't do it.

instead, pre-master and mix tracks flat response.

i use ONLY sony mdvr700 when I mix/premast and master.
everything really, I don't have monitors. I've emailed you a few of my songs and they sound exctly the same everywhere I play them.

faint sounding ghost layer on vocals will sound closer and a little louder
on headphones, maybe turn it up a bit and listen through the monitors.

I would NEVER render to mp3. always uncompressed wav.
all formats of mp3 are compressed so I wouldn't do it. I want the render
uncompressed and natural. instead make a copy and convert that copy to mp3.

"my mixes always satisfy me"
now, see if you can help someone elses mixes satisfy them big man..
c'mon now cap, we go way back, I know you better than that..

Good lookin!! Yes ALL your tracks are very tight and mixed well, I will try this.

Capshun wrote:

Lampdog wrote:"my mixes always satisfy me"
now, see if you can help someone elses mixes satisfy them big man..
c'mon now cap, we go way back, I know you better than that..

i dont know how to explain it, i just compress each track untill it sounds tight, do the same with a eq, some other weird effects, its always hte same process for me and it always works

that's cool. at least now he has some insight on your details.

ntalec wrote:Try listening to stuff that sounds good on your home theater but use your headphones instead of your speakers.
After you get a feel for how that sounds take the same thing and listen to it in your studio setup with the headphones and with your monitors.

best advice in this thread thusfar

bboutit wrote:Appreciate all the replies.... Yes, since moving etc etc I haven't had much time to spend with these new cans and I hate the learning curve of new ones, albeit new I have had them for a minute - - just not as comfortable with them as my old still getting there... New soundcard as well... The mix is getting much better (looking at the signals) has been helping a lot, solo-ing each track....

I use Audio Technica M40fs... I like them a lot..

i got these free with my mpc1000 purchase. but im a loyal MDR fan, so i'm not going to use em.

cooocooo1 wrote:buy a lot of cdr's and burn and learn

Exactly. Most people will not hear your mix on top-of-the-line monitors or speakers. They'll hear it on a crappy boom box or car stereo.

In addition to my regular monitors, I have a set of VERY cheap Radio Shack speakers that I use to do an A/B comparison. If the mix sounds good on the cheapies, it'll sound good anywhere.

EMFinite wrote:but im a loyal MDR fan.

You and me both..

ntalec wrote:I just don't agree with the burn and learn technique.
It can be helpful but can also become monotonous and slow the learning process.

I agree, VERY tedious but I think that if he's gonna learn what his headphones are not reproducing well it's necessary. I suggested it cuz I thought he said he had already been referencing tracks on his headphones but I misunderstood, he said he was using his monitors to do this. If youre mixing on headphones then you should use your headphones when comparing it to other material(as others have stated)

also, Ive heard those headphones, very muddy imo....

The hard part about mastering is making your productions sound tight on any sound system - however, to me it sounds like its something wrong with your WAV coder - if it sounds good when you preview it in your sound editor, it should sound pretty much the same when you export that file to wav and put it on a disc.

So, my guess is that its something wrong with your WAV coder.

Yo fam, you all have made this a dope a$$ed thread...

I will go home and try all these tips, they all make sense - good looking out.

@ Caps, good looking on compression, I straight forgot to attempt compression...

DaW Newbie you are..... Yoda @ bboutit

Followed the advice in here and now the mix is very very nice. The compression and normalizing helped this particular mix the most, thanks for all the tips.. This is a very good thread.

yo i got the same problem in Pro Tools, luckily i got iTunes right there for a quick reference to professional shit. i found something....

for some reason mids and upper mids get killed in the final mix when your doing everytinhg "in the box" on any software, and these are the freqs that give shit that polished sound, so i pop my fav eq on the master fader and do a bump in the frequencies i know will get killed. also i spend extra time sculpting the snare frequencies. usually does the job. im eventually gonna get a nice outboard channel strip comp/eq and a cd burner or masterlink tho.

and i never mix on headphones. dont do it.

DOVESKI wrote:

for some reason mids and upper mids get killed in the final mix when your doing everytinhg "in the box" on any software, and these are the freqs that give **** that polished sound, so i pop my fav eq on the master fader and do a bump in the frequencies i know will get killed. also i spend extra time sculpting the snare frequencies. usually does the job. im eventually gonna get a nice outboard channel strip comp/eq and a cd burner or masterlink tho.

I hope one day you figure out what you are doing that causes you to need to do that so that you can stop using that method.
That's some pretty scary sh*t to work that way.
DAW's don't naturally kill, add to, cut, destroy, muddy, make brittle or anything to a sound unless you are using hardware with bad sonic characteristics or have some crazy tracking methods.

hahaha, prolly not as drastic as it sounds, but everything just kinda sounds muted on the first bounce, like a early 90s rap record, so when i play my beat next to chronic 2001 instrumental on iTunes, i got to go back into PT to rework that. and it can be done its nothing.

and im using a soundcraft mixer into the mbox, monitroing the mbox through the soundcraft, so everything is even keel, but when you play your shit into itunes for refernece its like gotamn, leem go back and do this.