drum improvement question

I sample drums from records. Alot of the time the kicks will have like a hi hat over top. I filter the kicks on the mpc but it doesn't sound good with the snare and i don't wanna have to filter a good snare to even it up. How do I go about making kicks sound deep and clear without extra noise on the MPC as well as the PC?

layer your record sample snare with a deeper snare, then turn down the volume of the record sample. i call this skinning - the sample still sounds like that off the record but the hat is less pronounced and the bass is thicker.

Layer your kicks also in the program SIMUL screen. I love the SIMUL funcktion. Cant live with out it

Ok what about at the EQ end?

Dont worry too much about how one sound sounds when played by itself. Its all about how things sound when theyre all playing simultaeneously. When a song is completed, other layered sounds will mask the imperfections you dont want and give more character than 'clean' sounds. Just make the best of what you have.

i sugest running the signals through some type of analog tube, makes drums kick nice and crisp , and snare have more snap and crunch.( almost sound like im describing a snack food)

Science wrote:i sugest running the signals through some type of analog tube, makes drums kick nice and crisp , and snare have more snap and crunch.( almost sound like im describing a snack food)

I'm talking about my kicks more than my snares. I haven't messed with EQing much beyond the MPC. What I want to know is can I filter out those high frequencies that stand out in the kicks and just get a low boom using Cubase or some other programs. I filter on the MPC but that degrades the quality of the sample.

yeah you can filter out the hihat. but your rigth sometimes you can go too far and you loose definition to the kick. try using an eq with more bands so you get more control. Sometimes you jsut need to take a little off and when its all mixed it wont interfere with anything like peezie said.

When I mix my hihats relative to the kick, they are farther back so they dont really interfere anyways.

try using a differant hihat sound then the one chopped from the same loop.

**** with compression also. Plus I usually move onto a new sound if Im not getting the one to work. There are plenty of kicks out there that are good as is. Move on if its truely a waste of time (im not saying dont learn anything) but sometimes certain sound just dont work for the particular track.

word...thanks for the replies

try layering the top end (filter) from another sample with no hihat?

peezie wrote:Dont worry too much about how one sound sounds when played by itself. Its all about how things sound when theyre all playing simultaeneously. When a song is completed, other layered sounds will mask the imperfections you dont want and give more character than 'clean' sounds. Just make the best of what you have.

Id rather have every sound in the track b dope so when u put em 2gether ur more likely to get some dopeness.

Antonym wrote:layer your record sample snare with a deeper snare, then turn down the volume of the record sample. i call this skinning - the sample still sounds like that off the record but the hat is less pronounced and the bass is thicker.

that's a great tip! thanks Antonym!!

my pleasure, freedom of information

You obviously dont know what 'dope' is. go on with your clone music

jpeg wrote:Id rather have every sound in the track b dope so when u put em 2gether ur more likely to get some dopeness.

You obviously dont know what 'dope' is. go on with your clone music

haha! peezie, i think the kind of thought you are addressing is a product of software drum programming...when i used to produce on acid pro 3.0 i would spend so long searching for the perfect kick to fit my songs. wtf!? why didn't i realize i could have just layered a couple, rerendered and have my kick!?

fortunately for me, the mpc stuck it right in my face...