Discuss the various methods you use in music production, from compressor settings to equipment type.
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By silverman567 Tue Dec 20, 2005 1:14 am
hmmm...

is there anyway to loop a sample seamlessly...i remember hearing about a computer plug in that could do it...something like infinite loop or eternal loop. what i specifically mean is sampling a sound from an instrument, and being able to play that one sound seamlessly forever...ya get me!? turning a short sound into a long sound i spose. appreciate the advice...
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By stryke Tue Dec 20, 2005 2:13 am
There's this thing called the mpc.Maybe you should check it out. :lol: J/K

Look man this is really easy,especially on the xl.Timestretch the sound/sample and just loop it til it sounds like it's one consistent sound.


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By silverman567 Tue Dec 20, 2005 3:56 am
mmm thats not really it though bruv. timestretching isnt really the solution im talking about. its a specific piece of software that intelligently loops it seamsessly, but if no one knows thats aight.
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By stryke Tue Dec 20, 2005 4:06 am
Why are you tryin' to pull it off in software?
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By binger0 Tue Dec 20, 2005 4:23 am
any wave editor can do this. This is mad easy, just load up a sound like a bass note and just loop it right so it loops seemlessly. Its not hard.
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By cyrus Tue Dec 20, 2005 6:29 am
use your ears
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By dubmunkey Tue Dec 20, 2005 3:57 pm
the mpc loops endlessly if you set it up right

greg
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By silverman567 Wed Dec 21, 2005 4:37 am
ta
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By psitech Thu Dec 22, 2005 3:54 pm
how you mean seemlessly? to me if we talk loops, seemless and endless is'nt the same thing... you can loop anything endlessly until you press stop

but to me a seemless loop would mean when you loop something, it's impossible to hear the beginning/end of the loop.... and as far as i know you can only do this with certain sounds on the mpc... dont know about software but i think there is some hardware effects on which you can put sound through it and then freeze the sound at any moment and it will play seemlessly... probably a vocoder or autotune or something....
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By Yoshimi Tue Dec 27, 2005 12:25 am
He can't mean what we are thinking...can he?

By lo-fi Tue Dec 27, 2005 12:29 pm
You can loop any sound in the MPC, but how good (seamless) it'll sound depends very much on the sample used and the way it's looped. Of course you have to loop at zero crossings to avoid clicks, but you also need to find a portion of the sound that stays the same for some lengh of time; which isn't possible for every sound.

Other Akai samplers, and many software programs, have a function called 'crossfade loop', which helps tremendously when you need to do a smooth loop. If you set your loop points as best you can and then use 'crossfade loop', you can get a smooth loop on many sounds that you previously couldn't. It's like 'crossfade regions' in Logic. In Bias Peak you can fine-tune loop points using 'loop tuner', and then (if neccsary) use 'crossfade loop' which in Peak also has saveable blend envelopes... what more could you need?

Another nice looping function that was on some other Akai samplers but not on the MPC, is 'alternating loop'. It makes the loop play forwards and backwards, giving a much smoother loop because playback never jumps to another section in the sound. You can probably do this in software as well; if there isn't a function that does it, you can always set up a loop, hit copy/paste, hit 'reverse' and then re-set the loop points accordingly.

Oh, and the program I think you're talking about is Antares Infinity, which apparently is OS9-only. I don't think it does anything you can't do with Peak, so I'd say why bother...

Hope this helps.
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By Smoove03 Tue Dec 27, 2005 5:02 pm
adobe audition works for me! :)
By graynote1 Tue Dec 27, 2005 9:42 pm
not sure if this is what you're looking for, but check this

if you have a short sample, say a guitar note, or a a deep piano note or whatever, throw it onto two pads (probably easiest side by side) and lay each sample down into a four bar loop or whatever is you got by letting each sample overlap each other just slightly... the result is that you hear the same sample over and over again (overlapping each other a bit) but it probably sounds real choppy.

using your sliders, throw an after attack on each sample and adjust your sliders so that the samples just kind of flow into each other... the final sound can be f*cking ill, kind of like a pulsing sample that never ends...

i learned that one while i was trying to fade into two of the same piano hits, and the sound i got was so original... i was almost hesitant to throw this little tip out there, though i'm sure lots know about, but in the name of good music i feel some peoples should experiment with this in their own individual manner...