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By keepintouch2004 Fri Dec 26, 2003 4:48 am
I need your insight on this, I'm always wondering as technology becomes more sophisticated and less expensive to produce are we to expect LOWER prices?

a good example is the mpc3000, the only reason it cost alot more than the mpc2000 is because it uses a much older technology, which costs more to produce, i was shocked when roger linn sent me back an e-mail telling about the reason behind the gap cost.

I think akai is overcharging with the 4000!

Roland has failed to compete with the mv-8000, but i bet you if Korg gets
in this fight, it will do very well, cuz Korg is highly regarded in the hip hop production community, something roland just doesnt have.

By oraziodelcore Fri Dec 26, 2003 4:33 pm
Of course Roland mv8000 can`t compete with the mpc`s... The Mpc`s have been around since 87` ... Still I think Roland is superior on the multitrack Portas .. I own A Vs-2400cd and I have never wittnes such a stable and good recording device ... ( Just a matter of taste.. )

Yep I agree on what you said about the korg.. they have been around for 40 years , they shure got the potential to compete with any box on the market.. Still the Mpc is king ..

Peace

By MPC_Producer Fri Dec 26, 2003 5:23 pm
Wait a minute here, keepintouch. Roland has NOT failed with the MV-8000. It was released ONLY 2 WEEKS AGO. Don't expect an overnight miracle. It doesn't work that way with their current line of products. The momentum builds over a period of months. You will have to wait until summer or later before you see the demand increase. How new are you new to Hip Hop? I ask that because if you don't know how many new Hip Hop musicians are buying the Fantom-S (due to its low price) you haven't done any research.

The MPC3000 doesn't cost more because it is older technology. Nobody wanted the old MPC60 and MPC3000. So they were picked up cheap by Hip Hop musicians. After the word got around that they were being used by producers, then prices soared on the secondhand market. Now they are falling again. It is all a matter of supply and demand.

AKAI isn't necessarily overcharging the retailers for the MPC4000. Its price was higher a couple years ago, and it must have cost a small fortune to develop it. For all you know they might still be trying to earn money on it. The product has been somewhat of a failure. Retail stores won't even stock it. AKAI still has to put money into its OS development.
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By keepintouch2004 Fri Dec 26, 2003 10:32 pm
Wait a minute here, keepintouch. Roland has NOT failed with the MV-8000. It was released ONLY 2 WEEKS AGO. Don't expect an overnight miracle. It doesn't work that way with their current line of products. The momentum builds over a period of months. You will have to wait until summer or later before you see the demand increase.How new are you new to Hip Hop



INCREASE IN DEMAND? WHAT?? DA MV-8000 AIN SH*T! AND EVERYBODY IN THE WORLD KNOWS IT, SPECIALLY THE HIP HOPERS, AND THENNNNNNNNNNN U GOT THE AUDACITY TO ASK HOW NEW I AM TO HIP HOP..LMAO................ITS LIKE ASKING THE POPE HOW NEW ARE YOU TO CATHOLICISM.


I ask that because if you don't know how many new Hip Hop musicians are buying the Fantom-S (due to its low price) you haven't done any research.?


WHO? NAME ONE PROMINENT PRODUCER WHO USES IT!

The MPC3000 doesn't cost more because it is older technology. Nobody wanted the old MPC60 and MPC3000. So they were picked up cheap by Hip Hop musicians. After the word got around that they were being used by producers, then prices soared on the secondhand market. Now they are falling again. It is all a matter of supply and demand.


I CANT BELIEVE HOW MUCH OF AN IDIOT YOU ARE! LMAOOOOOOOOO.
E-MAIL ROGER LINN AT HIS WEBSITE AND ASK HIM WHY THE 3000 COSTS MORE THAN THE 2000.


AKAI isn't necessarily overcharging the retailers for the MPC4000. Its price was higher a couple years ago, and it must have cost a small fortune to develop it. For all you know they might still be trying to earn money on it. The product has been somewhat of a failure. Retail stores won't even stock it. AKAI still has to put money into its OS development.


mmmmm........DO YOU WORK FOR ROLAND?

By MPC_Producer Fri Dec 26, 2003 10:45 pm
keepintouch2004 wrote:I CANT BELIEVE HOW MUCH OF AN IDIOT YOU ARE! LMAOOOOOOOOO.
E-MAIL ROGER LINN AT HIS WEBSITE AND ASK HIM WHY THE 3000 COSTS MORE THAN THE 2000.
Sorry, NEWBIE. But you're the idiot.

At your age you were in diapers when the MPC3000 debuted.

Otherwise you would have known its history and how it was abandoned until recent years when Hip Hop producers discovered it was cheap.

Get your facts straight next time before you post bull that others can see right through.

Bye, bye FOOL.
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By keepintouch2004 Sat Dec 27, 2003 12:42 am
MPC_Producer wrote:
keepintouch2004 wrote:I CANT BELIEVE HOW MUCH OF AN IDIOT YOU ARE! LMAOOOOOOOOO.
E-MAIL ROGER LINN AT HIS WEBSITE AND ASK HIM WHY THE 3000 COSTS MORE THAN THE 2000.
Sorry, NEWBIE. But you're the idiot.

At your age you were in diapers when the MPC3000 debuted.

Otherwise you would have known its history and how it was abandoned until recent years when Hip Hop producers discovered it was cheap.

Get your facts straight next time before you post bull that others can see right through.

Bye, bye FOOL.






LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
YOU'RE SOOOOOOOOOOOO FREAKING STUPID. LOLLLLLL
HIP HOP PRODUCERS DID NOT ABANDON THE MPC3000 BECAUSE ITS CHEAP, THE 3000le STILL COST $3200 BRAND NEW, YOU'LL HAVE TO PAY BETWEEN $1600-$2400 FOR A USED ONE ON EBAY , GO TO FORAT SEE HOW MANY PRODUCERS STILL USE THE 3000.

YOU DONT KNOW JACK ABOUT HIP HOP OR ABOUT MPC DRUM MACHINES.


SOMEBODY PLEASE SMACK THIS MUTHAF*CKA FOR ME!