making uk hip hop

hi

im in to production and am finding it difficult to write hip hop drum loops that have a nice groove to them like in dre 2001 [usa] and skitz [uk]. i find that they always sound to rigid. can any one help me? more advise the better. im using fruity loop, reason cubase sx, battery [which i havent worked out yet]. is there any other software thats good for writing hip hop? im just starting out and want to concentrate on hip hop music. so the more advise the better? also any other tips on writinfg hip hop would be wicked!!

i'm from norway and doesn't speak to good english.. what do you mean with rigid?

over quantised!!

The easy answer (and the one I will always give) is to turn off the quantise - real drummers dont use quantise templates! If your drums sound rigid, play them like a real drummer and dont rely on a computer template to do the work for you.

to a click track? any other tips on producing phat beats??

Try to feel what your doing...Loosen Up before your start.

Secondly, try and hear the beat in your head before you start, that way you can hear where you want things to go.

A crash course of advise would be to try and copy a hip hop break , loop , tune you like and see how close you can it. Copying tracks is challenge but rewarding at the same time. A lot of the loose feel you are after is in the hi hat programming (use velocity changes - Hats should be at different levels to create that in and out swing feel)

Try that for size and see how you get on

The easy answer (and the one I will always give) is to turn off the quantise

A very good point. Personally, I always quantise my Kick & Snare but with hats, its off. We all got are ways

is there any other software or tips thats good for writing hip hop?

You'l get more out of it if you try 1st then ask later. Theres no 1 way to make any music. Understand the structure of the music 1st as a basic rule then go from there.

You need to know what it is you are trying to do b4 you try to do it...That initial thought process helps....leave the rest up to vibe!

ok cool thanx ill give it a go.

do u know of any good software and plugin fx and instruments that are good to write hip hop with?

No sorry! Im a hardware man!

Yep, this is actually a forum for Akai MPC users, so we're not going to tell you to make Hip Hop on software!

im using an mpc 2000 too.