Discuss the various methods you use in music production, from compressor settings to equipment type.
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By DM0NEY Sun Dec 28, 2003 6:15 pm
how do u get ur beats copywritten?
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By Blaz4me Sun Dec 28, 2003 6:29 pm
Go to http://www.local.gov.org if you're interested in just copyrighting the beat request /download the SR form. If you are looking to copyright the beat and lyrics get the PA form. I would also recommend further surfing into areas such as mechanical rights, compulsory licenses and how to register trademarks and logos under the Patents and trademarks department. This is a must know ! ! One more thing you can copyright more than one song (the lyrics), and/or track on either PA or SR forms.
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By DM0NEY Mon Dec 29, 2003 4:20 am
can i put as much tracks i can fit in a cd then send it to gett it copywritten for 35 bucks?right..?and another thing should i fill out the form first then send my beats.can u clear this out for me?
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By Blaz4me Mon Dec 29, 2003 5:11 am
Yes, you can send as many tracks as you can fit onto a cd and register it as a compilation. You would send them altogether.

By djames Mon Dec 29, 2003 6:18 am
Yep, there are 2 ways you can go SR or PA. SR is one flat fee for your whole CD and PA is for individual songs. If you are the only producer than SR form is definitely the way to go. Good looking on that link Blaz4me.
peace,
D. James
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By beets Mon Dec 29, 2003 6:30 am
Thanks for the link Blaz4me! Peace
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By DM0NEY Tue Dec 30, 2003 5:58 am
i heard there was a ghetto way?like sendin ur beats to ur self or sumthin like that,,,,,, :?:
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By beets Tue Dec 30, 2003 7:06 am
DM0NEY wrote:i heard there was a ghetto way?like sendin ur beats to ur self or sumthin like that,,,,,, :?:

Yeah, you just send the beat to yourself and never open the envelope or whatever you stick it in. When the post office stamps the package, its stamped with the date on it. So, if someone tries to rip off your ish, you present the sealed beat to the court. And they'll see that they package with the original material has been dated. Sort of a low-budget copyright, Ive heard of it but, I dont know of anyone thats ever done it. Peace
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By Blaz4me Tue Dec 30, 2003 2:01 pm
The only problem with that route is by not registering it with the Library of Congress Copyrights office is it leaves room for someone else to submitt a copyright for your stuff under their name in an attempt to get over. All though you don't have to register a copyright with the copyrights office it would still be in your best interest. Say you do copyright your stuff the poor man's way, even though you can provide proof and win the suit you first need to spend some dolo on a lawyer and court fees.
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By Forest Parks Tue Dec 30, 2003 4:30 pm
reputed industry snake Tony Mercedes told us to our face that the "poor man's" copywrite ain't enough, n*ggaz can snake around it...


it's only $30 for a whole CD...just come up off it, it'll be better in the long run
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By DM0NEY Tue Dec 30, 2003 9:12 pm
so basicaly i fill out the sr form right then send to the library of congress then send them 30 bux?how do i get the form and is it hard to fill out.do i need a lawyer to help fill it out?
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By beets Wed Dec 31, 2003 2:46 am
Forest Parks wrote:it's only $30 for a whole CD...just come up off it, it'll be better in the long run

I agree...peace
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By Blaz4me Wed Dec 31, 2003 9:37 am
DM0NEY wrote:so basicaly i fill out the sr form right then send to the library of congress then send them 30 bux?how do i get the form and is it hard to fill out.do i need a lawyer to help fill it out?


a lawyer is not necessary at all. As long as you can read write and comprehend what can a lawyer do that you can't do for yourself. I just hate it when people try to pay other people to do for them what they can do for themselves. Straight up homie pick up a music business book and read up. Learn how and where your income comes from. Don't be like all the other folks who got screwed in the biz. The more you know the fewer the amount of leaches get to eat off of you.
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By descartes Wed Dec 31, 2003 10:00 am
Blaz4me wrote:
DM0NEY wrote:so basicaly i fill out the sr form right then send to the library of congress then send them 30 bux?how do i get the form and is it hard to fill out.do i need a lawyer to help fill it out?


a lawyer is not necessary at all. As long as you can read write and comprehend what can a lawyer do that you can't do for yourself. I just hate it when people try to pay other people to do fopr them what they can do for themselves. Straight up homie pick up a music business book and read up. Learn how and where your income comes from. Don't be like all the other folks who got screwed in the biz. The more you know the fewer the amount of leaches get to eat off of you.


for the opposite opinion:

think: if you had a hot as sh!t banging track would you master it yourself or would you take it to the best mastering house you could afford?

same with copywrite.

the thirty buck deal blaz is selling (no offense man) is the "poor mans copywrite." A good lawyer will find hole in it, I assure you.

Let guitar players play guitar, producers make beats, rappers rap and lawyers practice law...

in other words, if your beat is worth money, treat like it is and hire someone to take care of it. i could figure out the tax code if i had the time, but if i had a million dollars, gee i dont know, i think id take it to an accountant

if your beat is just "kinda good" and you're worried that someone's going to swipe it, stop acting like a little b!tch.

its hip-hop man, swiping beats is what its all about (at least in part).

again, im not trying to piss anyone off, i just think kids should know that there ain't a magic receipe that'll save you if some one jacks your beat. if there was a lot of cats would've retired rich by now...


ps: i dont mean you should be dumb about it, though. understand what copywrite is and what rights you do have before you throw them away.
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By Blaz4me Wed Dec 31, 2003 5:15 pm
this ain't no retaliation however , it would appear that you're not to well versed in your craft. Registering a copyright is no harder than filling out a job application. The information is all yours, and who knows better than you the author/composer of the song or songs. Ain't no loop holes in registering a song or songs. Either you do it or you don't! What I got from your post is that you would pay $180 to register your music. $150 for the lawyers time and another $30 or so to cover the registering fee. Would you turn around and Pay a lawyer to register your application with ASCAP or BMI? No, and that's where your money comes from. This is your long term income right here. Your mechanical points, and compulsory licensings. I'm rushing right now but Homie I been behind the scenes and dealing with some Industry folks and not to mention I've seen the Deathrow conflicts and can still remember Boogie Down Productions never getting one red nickel for the "Criminal Minded" album. And all of these guys had lawyers what they didn't have was insight into their own craft. They relied on other folks to do everything for them. Oh yeah Eric B and Rakim got screwed out of Paid in Full all the same way. in summary the only way a Industry snake can get you is if you let them run free into your business.
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