Long sample is cutoff after 1 1/2 measures

And the suggestion of chopping up what I've played is dumb to me, I'm going for a live sound and natural feel, something that would require tons more work to achieve if I programmed it

not really. that's why you chop it in recycle and save a midi file if it REALLY takes that long to reprogram...which it honestly does not, i do it with all my phrase samples and it costs me a couple minutes that i find well spent... patch phrasing your shit makes you have more control over tempo, too, which you can't do with long samples of phrases.

anyway, the midi file from recycle remains unquantized, and suddenly you have access to every note individually for further editing, effecting, etc. honestly this way is easy and VASTLY expands your control...not to mention the later potential to reorder your notes and basslines (including by repitching them) and creating interesting new and completely natural, live feeling melodies, filter sweeps, filler, etc.

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Everybody's got their own style. As Antonym points out, if you do this in Recycle or similar, you'll have a very quick way of doing it and it hopefully won't lose any of the human feel, even if you decide to change tempo later. It also allows you to shift individual notes, etc as he pointed out, which could be useful.

Also note that OS2 will add "patch phrasing" as Ant called the old way of doing things to the built-in features list. You'll have these tempo-syncable phrase samples without even needing to manually chop anything. Check sparq's video on this for more info.

-tank.

Yeah I guess recycle could be good, it really doesn't fit in with the way I work though. When I sample, or when I play something I do it very deliberately taking exactly what I need or playing exactly what I want.

Like you said people have different styles, I've been doing this since before recycle and time stretching and all that shit, so I don't feel the need to use it.

Do your thing though.

Peace

when I play something I do it very deliberately taking exactly what I need or playing exactly what I want.

chopping doesn't change that. it just chops. it can preserve the original placement without changing the sound at all if you want it to - just gives you more conrol. also lets you play stuff from different poitns rather than just the midi trigger point. this makes for faster/more effective working.

Sure it gives you "more control" I know what you're talking about and I do it all the time just chopping regularly without recycle. But what I'm saying is I'm deliberate with what I choose to sample, each hit. I'm not going to load a 4 bar loop in recycle and autochop it cause I don't want to use all those hits.

See what I'm saying?

Also by being deliberate, I don't need "more control". If I want variations in a guitar part or bassline that I've played, I don't need to chop it do so, I can just record a variation and load it as a sample.

I'm not saying my process is better, it's just better for the way I work. Just like yours is better for the way you work. Everyone does things differently.

Anyway do your thing, I'll do mine.

Peace