Discuss the various methods you use in music production, from compressor settings to equipment type.
By StreetDreamz Fri Jan 06, 2006 2:47 pm
Im A rookie to makin beats I got about a year.....I wanna learn to eq
beats like the kicks and snares jus make them sound right on a stereo and car systems.....I have studio monitors but i already learned dat wat u hear on da monitors is different then wat u hear on a stereo I dont why? but das wat it is...... I have a frequency chart it kind of helps me when im EQin
but its still not where i want my drums to sound....I also tweak around with the GAIN, FREQUENCY and Q(I dont know what Q stands for) till I like wat I hear by my ears...but like I said once I bounce it to a disc and play it in a stereo it sounds different...not horrible but I feel if I put work into makin it sound good on my monitors it should sound great on a stereo...RIGHT?

This is a process I decided to do I dont kno if any one tried it...or if any one knows a better process to learn Eqin..........

I put a bout 2 kicks and 2 snares and a hi hat on a beat jus a regular drum roll....I recorded it into my track recorder .....and made about 5 different beats using the same kick and snare in the same drum roll but all EQ'd different then i heard it on my stereo So were better than others but its not where I want it to b ….I don’t kno if im too picky or if its jus not me doin it right…

Heres a lil example of how I eq’d


I use a 4 band Eq

I got my Lows, Low Mid, High Mid and High


EQ'D KICKS

1.
I left my high and mid high at 0 GAIN, My Low was 8(GAIN), 70hz(FREQUENCY), Shelvin(Q)

2.
My High was 0 GAIN
I set my high mid to 4(GAIN) ,5khz(FREQUENCY) 1.4(Q)
Mid Low 6(GAIN), 160hz(FREQUENCY), 1.2(Q)
Low 7(GAIN). 90hz (FREQUENCY), 1.1(Q)


I Feel like since A kick is heavy on da lows I have it Eq’d like in steps Gain on lows should b da highest then mid low a lil less then mid highs a lil less then mid low…and my high really don’t use it on my kicks….. and I do da opposite on snares...........AM I right???????


Sorry If I got ya confused durin my examples but I jus really wanna get a good knowledge on this and like I said I kno im a rookie and im only here to learn…..ANY HELP is Appreciated!!!

By twist Fri Jan 06, 2006 5:51 pm
There is no set way to equalize sounds, but a good thing to keep in mind is Why you are EQing the sounds in the first place: You are trying to save precious headroom & make your sounds fit together in the little "box" that is digital audio.

Nothing can be louder than 0dB. That's the ceiling. So, to save headroom you want to cut out frequencies you are not using. Here is what I do- make a big narrow boost with your parametric eq, sweep it through the sound & find the nasty and turn that boost into a cut. For every cut you make, you get more headroom like mana raining down from the heavens.

In the midrange frequencies ( which blend together well mostly ) a little bleed-over is normally a good thing, making your mix sound a bit fuller and more substantial. Hope this helps!

By StreetDreamz Fri Jan 06, 2006 6:11 pm
"Here is what I do- make a big narrow boost with your parametric eq, sweep it through the sound & find the nasty and turn that boost into a cut. For every cut you make, you get more headroom like mana raining down from the heavens. "

how can i do dis???
Do I increase the gain on everything from low-high???
and how would I cut?


THANX ALOT FOR DA ADVICE!!!!!!

By fader-pro Fri Jan 06, 2006 8:59 pm
When you EQ it's mostly better to cut what you don't want than to add because you can cause clipping when adding too much EQ.

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By J WALES Fri Jan 06, 2006 9:09 pm
like twist said HEADROOM no headroom no room to work so dont come into your recorder too hot. what i do is if i want my kik to be full i make 2 tracks of the same kik and EQ them differently and listen for the often subtle but significant changes. oh yeah go slow cause going too fast you can miss what u looking for in a flash, trust me

By StreetDreamz Fri Jan 06, 2006 10:07 pm
"what i do is if i want my kik to be full i make 2 tracks of the same kik and EQ them differently and listen for the often subtle but significant changes. "


I like dat Idea!!!!Thanx Wales!


but boostin means gain right???

and to cut means lower the gain????

how do I make a narrow boost with the parametric eq????

By Beat God Sat Jan 07, 2006 3:48 am
What monitors r u using?
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By TBonus76 Sat Jan 07, 2006 8:55 pm
StreetDreamz wrote:I have studio monitors but i already learned dat wat u hear on da monitors is different then wat u hear on a stereo I dont why?


Part of the difference you are hearing is due to the difference in speakers, but a lot of it is also the room you are in. Different rooms or locations (bedroom, car, club, etc.) are going to make your mixes sound completely different. It is hard to do precise EQ in a room which is not acoustically corrected. If you don't have access to such a room, my best advice is to make SMALL adjustments and then test out the mixes on different systems and locations. Trial and error. Keep tweakin the mix using small adjustments and dont give up. Remember: Every song and sound is gonna need somethin unique as far as eq/compression, etc. Experiment with it. Once you get it the best you can, only an experienced mastering engineer working in a mastering room can take it to the next level. That said, here are some typical problems hip-hop mixes MIGHT possibly have:

Too "muddy" or muffeld:
Probably too much in the 80hz-300hz range, try taking some of these frequencies out of something (probably bassline). Make sure that the Kick and the Bassline each have some space in the low frequency range so that they don't both fight for the same low frequencies and wash each other out.

Too "piercing" or "The esses hurt my ears":
Focus on reducing frequencies in the range of 4000kHz-8000kHz, probably in the vocals (foe esses) or maybe in the HiHats or sample if that's whats buggin you.

Too "airy" or Hissy:
Reduce frequencies around 10000kHz and up. Any number of things could have air in them, solo instruments and listen if you have to.

These are just the tip of the iceberg, but might be good places to start. As I said, every song is different. Experiment using SMALL adjustments (gains of + or - 1 or 2). The sweeping technique that StreetDreamz mentiond will help decide which frequencies are problematic too.
By StreetDreamz Mon Jan 09, 2006 2:48 pm
[/quote]The sweeping technique that StreetDreamz mentiond will help decide which frequencies are problematic too.[/quote]


Yea How would I do dat????