Talk and share knowledge on rare records, sources of new samples, vinyl, diggin, etc
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By dj e.d.e Sat Jan 07, 2006 4:16 am
i'm sorry but i have heard that vinyl was dieing for 25 yrs and yeah it may have slowd down but i dont think it will die till the last record pressin engineer passes away: thats if he didnt show his offspring to do the same .

i doubt it will die tho, my unlce brought me over some records that have been with him for 40yrs he said, and there in pretty good shape, thers people out there still that havent got rid of there vinyl and there pretty old, i'm not to sure how old my uncle is but he's in his 70's i imagine.

thats how i was to be ,i'll be found dead on the floor of some record store with one of the bombest breaks ever in my hand they'll have to cut my hands off to get it out my dead hands.
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By Renessis Sat Jan 07, 2006 4:54 am
haha EDE im 19 and becoming that way...I love vinyl...from the smell to that glossy black shine...and the way it feels under your fingers...that solid feel...from the stiff 78's to those dynaflex classics ahhh
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By dopedragon Sat Jan 07, 2006 6:07 am
whoa, this thread is quickly becoming XXX rated.

back on track, though...

the government, oh the government. you know they play a role especially in commercial music, but the corporations (ie. clearchannel, like you mentioned) are in the same bed...filled with money and their consumer whores.

im sure that the artists are constantly being told to tone down their material, but with producers, i think there should be less of a control on their material, besides copyright infringement, which should be making more people dig out the more obscure samples. BUT in most cases their major labels are payin for the sample clearance, which makes more sense as to why people are using the same ole loops and/or popular, or more familiar, samples.
also lends an argument to why more producers would rather work with a major label in order to get their name out and make that cash.

to the point, yes, making a poor musical product would have to be a direct biproduct of the desire for money. but, you can't expect much out of music being made in the fashion for this purpose. it is the nature of the business as you put it, but there are other outlets, ie. the independant music circuit.

but, i also think that society, the culture and the fanbase are partially at fault as well. when you try to play something different for the average radio listener, they usually dismiss it fairly quickly for some, as you say, crack music. i dont get it, and probably never will. the average listener is force fed the commercial sht on the radio, mtv and bet...by the time anything else gets to their ears, its too late.

if it appears that i make cyclical arguments, its because i am, due to the fact that i don't think there's a definitive answer to this; other than people don't try as hard as they used. artists are not tryin to make their masterpieces like they used to. they just try to shoot out the hot new sht ASAP for mass consumption instead of drivin themselves crazy and cuttin off their ears, etc.


we live in a fast food culture.dope.
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By Xandre Sat Jan 07, 2006 6:17 pm
elmacaco good looks i d/l side 1 about d/l side 2 ...

FLAAAVAA


XANDRE
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By Xandre Sat Jan 07, 2006 6:24 pm
it's hard to change peoples impressions of music if you yourself are not finding a way to flood the airwaves the way crack music floods it. i think it boils down to the kind of music people (who listen to radio) hear all day will be the music they expect to hear.

thus relegating oneself to just the indie market is kind of self-defeating if you are really trying to reach the masses.

you can make more decent money on an indie rather than a major tho because re-coup costs at a major are ridiculous and they are disappointed with 200,000 in sales while at an indie that's straight.

Hip-Hop just needs to assert itself as culture seperate from corporate culture and become a political force, it is already an economic power and increasingly, those economics are helping us become bussinessman and i know that to establish political power a group must first have economic power. so maybe rap being involved in corporate america will lead to greater things so long as Hip-Hop's spiritual essence isn't degraded because of it


XANDRE