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By jonathan morris Thu Jan 19, 2006 6:40 pm
First learn your mpc.

Second, rely on your instincts about what to sample.

Try to start each project by not adhering to a format, let the music lead you. Find out what works and what doesn't.

The more you chop your sample the more freedom you have to manipulate and restructure the original theme. What part of the sample do you want? Figure that out and then you can start filtering, etc.

Experiment.

Develop your own process using your specific equipment.

I create 100% sampled music, using records and an mpc, it works for me but not for others.

Develop your style and do you.

By RealiZm.RecordZ Sat Jan 21, 2006 1:09 am
Thanks for advice but it doesnt really help me, i mean i do have ideas etc, but i mean i dont know how to start can u explain your process of sampling and making a track to give me an idea, aslso could you define the word chop please? I may sound silly but ive been denying the fact im hopless in this area.
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By Lampdog Sat Jan 21, 2006 1:26 am
Sounds like your asking for REALLY in depth help. Maybe you should get like a sampling book, tutorial or something like that.

What mpc do you have?
"beat making on the 2kxl" could that be of some help to you?

By RealiZm.RecordZ Sun Jan 22, 2006 12:02 am
Yea i have the 2000XL, i think i will buy that as i bought a Sample kings DVD and it sucked. I mean I do wanna learn my MPC. But i think sampling and making beats on the pc may be easier as im so used to it but i will buy that book to learn my MPC anyway as i really want to learn it. Is there any good books/dvds that explain the technical side of hip hop sampling in general expllaining rex, samplers/mpc,s etc etc. Thanks.

hey

By odeed Sun Jan 22, 2006 1:50 am
well to explain the "why" is kinda hard.the reason certain producers take certain samples is becuase they think they sound good.(maybe thats a silly way to explain it,but i cant think of any other way to say it.)
if you hear a kick you like....take it.
if you hear a horn you like....take it
etc,etc.

now by "take" i mean sample it into you mpc.you dont need any computer program to cut up sounds.you can do it all on the mpc 200oxl by holding down "shift" and pushing the "trim" mode.this brings up a wav. of the sound you sampled in and using the jog wheel you can "cut" the part of the sample you want.
personally i started with records.id hear a snare,or hi-hat,or whatever that i liked.id go into sample mode,and grab a few beats before and after the sound i wanted,then use the jog wheel to capture the part i wanted.

so you can do "one hits" (just the kick,etc)
or do whole 1 bar loops if ya want (the whole 1,2,3,4 beat of the song you sampled)
its really up to you.

well i hope i helped a bit.i tried to break it down real basic,im not sure what musical terms you are familiar with or not.but anyway....
good luck and let me know if ya need any more help.
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By krang Sun Jan 22, 2006 9:04 am
this is just me
-i take a sample i think is good
-i combine that with a drum pattern
-i mess with the speed of the sample and the speed of drums
till it sounds as good as possible
-where you notice it goes off beat you have to chopp the sample to either insert extra time between notes of the sample or condense the notes of the sample by making them overlap or cancelling eachother out.
-if the sound doesnt connect the way you want it ,again-you can mess with the attack/decay of sample, time strech a chop of the sample, change speed
of all the chops of the sample(make sure all your chops speed match) mess with the drum pattern bpm to condense the chops together or seperate them further

-this is just me. the only way to really learn is to **** with it. only use the manual if your really stuck.
-its kinda like playing a synth to a beat once you chopp up the samples notes
- you just have to edit the sounds to make it sound good which is usually necessary (sometimes impossible)

By RealiZm.RecordZ Sun Jan 22, 2006 1:05 pm
Thanks guys, odeed i understand what you said and i can do all that. Its making a track the musical parts with samples anything to do with beats i can do, its just sampling musical parts.
By odeed Sun Jan 22, 2006 5:37 pm
RealiZm.RecordZ wrote:Thanks guys, odeed i understand what you said and i can do all that. Its making a track the musical parts with samples anything to do with beats i can do, its just sampling musical parts.


if you can do that then you are more than on your way to making some dope ass beats.

By RealiZm.RecordZ Sun Jan 22, 2006 8:38 pm
When i hear someone say i made a full sample based track, im like how, the bass lines how? the melody how? the chorus change how? You know what i mean.
By odeed Sun Jan 22, 2006 10:17 pm
RealiZm.RecordZ wrote:When i hear someone say i made a full sample based track, im like how, the bass lines how? the melody how? the chorus change how? You know what i mean.


well the melody and bass could be the same loop off a record.ya know what i mean?and the chord changes could have been from the original song as well.you just sample different parts.
like ice cubes "today was a good day" thats pretty much just the first bar from the isley brothers "footsteps in the dark"

but the other way a song could be all samples is cutting up the drums from lets say james brown's "funky drummer" (i.e. cutting up the kick,snare,etc.)
then taking the bass from the fatback bands "ninja walk" (on the breakdown its nothing but the bass.so you can take the whole loop,or take each note,sample it to a pad,then play it in any order you want.you could also use 16 levels on you 2000xl to take each note to do chord changes.)oh and b.t.w i have used that bass before. 8)
now grab your miles davis "bitches brew" record and grab some horns...etc,etc.

ya see what i mean?