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i don't know how people are gonna react to this but... i want to know what records are the favorites for sampling. also,with all the new reissues of classic platters that are out, do these reissues hold their value when used in a beat? i would think not but still i abuse a copy (reissue) of the death wish soundtrack by Herbie Hancock. if you can't hear the samples on every turn of this record then well....this is old news though. what are the new gems? i am not looking for handouts i dig hard i just want to see what the rest of you find to be the "classics".
now time to use your imagination. can a track that isn't played live and has no samples be hip hop? i know there are cds in the hip hop bins but are made on a computer or whatever else. where does it stand if you made a track using samples that sounded very similar to a keyboard/computer track? which track gets more respect?
whats up with a battle only using the same track of one record for the whole beat? i want to see different styles with the same sounds. these battles are happening on this site right now probably but i want to start something new. any ideas? how to post the track to be sampled? i can't post sounds yet.
i don't want to stir anything up i just needed to breathe some more life into subject of sample theory(?) as it is positively a huge part of what you do if you are reading this.
peace

Picking a sample is a matter of each individual/producer. Me personally, when it comes to sampling, nothing is off limits. The only rule I make for myself is not to make a track with a sample that has been greatly overused. I prefer obscure samples that I think nobody else would use, whether it's a jazz, rock, latin, or whatever. Hell, I've lifted sounds off of movies that you couldn't get by digging. As far as classics samples go, does it really matter? I believe if you're making tight beats, does it matter what/who you sampled? I mean, it's cool to know what sample/song a popular artist/producer used to make a hit record, but it's all about the final product. Does it make your head nod? Does it make you wanna dance? Does it make you get hyped? That's the issue, whether it was a sampled-based song or a no sample keyboard-made song. "Grindin'" by the Clipse is a perfect example. No samples at all, it was made with a Korg Triton percussion kit. It was straight hip-hop, bared down the essence. Kick, snare, bass and high hat. It got respect because it was hot! Then you take Kayne West, who samples alot, but also gets respect because he makes hot tracks. It all about making good music, samples or no samples. Belie 'dat...

incurablebeatlust wrote: i want to know what records are the favorites for sampling.

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dandydon,
with all due respect i understand that it is the end result that matters most but i just want to open up the forum with some of our favorites. i don't understand why some people think that it is such a big secret. 15-20 years ago yeah i could understand, but unless you are sitting on a huge stash of vinyl (think shadows diggin spot in the movie scratch) the wax you have somebody else has allready discovered and possibly made beats with. many of us know about david axelrod, baby huey, les baxter, and about a thousand other potential "classic" sample-worthy artists so why not share? And about using recognizeable samples i think it can be fun if nothing else. take a popular motown song (or whatever) and flip it in a toatally new way. it really matters how you make your beats, i just think that there are too many people on here that use samples not to get a little bit of knowledge flowing. and still no disrespect to don but you say it doesn't matter record somebody uses to make a track but then... you cite a track that was made with a triton. don't you then look at the track and wonder how the sounds were dirtied-up, or compressor settings, or what drumkit was used? i think it is the same with samples, you know what sample was used you listen to the original and discover how and where the chops were placed, beats were put to it, you gert the picture. i agree it doesn't really matter but at least it can show you how somebody else does it. i am not recommending biting but it is an one way to learn tchnique. and besides that it is fun. imagine that. this is a sample culture lets share some of it!
this site is ruling!
peace

Ok, a few of my favorites are Dorothy Ashby, Galt McDermot, Patrice Rushen, Peter Thomas, and any Parliament/Funkadelic record. There are soooo many places (vinyl, movies, tv shows, my own triton, etc.) that I get my samples from, that I can't say which particular artist is a favorite source. I just go with what I prefer (mainly strings or orchestra) and the sound/sample I'm looking for on that particular day. I wasn't trying to hide any sources, I was just pointing out that it doesn't matter where you get your samples/sounds from, as long as you're using it correctly, whether its a sample-based track or a keyboard track. I'm sure I have some vinyl that you, or anybody else, has in this forum. I just named a few of mine, so who else wants to share?

I use Billie Holliday and Duke Ellington records, Oh yeah and Sade.

nice. ive got some sade but never checked it for samples before, maybe ill have to give it another listen. peace.

Yeah, Sade is another artist that I've sampled before. "Love is Stronger Than Pride" in particular...

her voice is butter! the only sade lp i have is your love is king. not to funky, more easy listening type shiz but does have samples.
goodie goodie! i want to heart more! lots of views but few posts whats up mpc massive?

I just picked up a copy of The Edgar Winter Group "They Only Come Out At Night" The dude on the cover is pretty freaky but the wax is kinda hot. Haven't listened to it all yet. Started snatchin' **** off of it and got a pretty nice beat going. My first one with potential it's been a slow start.

picked up "return to forever" with chick corea today...best jazz I've sampled from yet, nice vibes n ish...real clear too...got a "war" record today too thats gonna sample for days.

im using return to forever too .... nice and heavy
a few off the bass loops been used by the grouch on his newest album.

the ojays r always nice especially for the sped up vocal styles......

the 70's basically

yup late 60's and mainly seventies....must be the production but sampling off seventies rock, funk, disco (the salsoul kind), jazz, dub and pop always has that lushness to it....



greg

just picked it up this weekend. well known but still got that nasty drum break and it is sweet as hell to play out with other funk albums.

speek wrote:picked up "return to forever" with chick corea today...best jazz I've sampled from yet, nice vibes n ish...real clear too...got a "war" record today too thats gonna sample for days.

hahaha!!! Chick always come through, I must have his whole catalog.