Discuss the various methods you use in music production, from compressor settings to equipment type.
By mksphnx2001 Fri Jan 27, 2006 6:51 pm
One thing that I have noticed in many beats today is a heavy emphasis placed on swing and making sure that the backbone of the beat (the drums) is really rocking. My question to many of the beat makers/producers in this forum is: What do you do specifically to get your drums as tight as possible, and the swing in your music to the point where it is bouncing, making the heads nod?

The reality of the matter is, you can have the craziest samples, the hottest kicks & snares, the hottest riffs, fills etc... BUT if your swing can't snap necks then the beat is just flat and lifeless. I appreciate your honesty and feedback brethren and I humbly accept whatever method of production you bring to the table.

Thanks in Advance...

By Luigi Fri Jan 27, 2006 7:23 pm
messing with the tempo and pitch, just like add 1 cent of pitch and u change the way the sample "swings"
User avatar

By boaty Sat Jan 28, 2006 2:01 am
if you want something that makes heads nod, than nod your head while programming the beat, don't be so technical, works for me.
User avatar

By incurablebeatlust Sat Jan 28, 2006 2:47 am
theminsk420 wrote:it dont mean a thang if it aint got that swang baby


ohj yeah! chic.
User avatar

By TheFirstJimBo Sat Jan 28, 2006 6:53 am
I make the beat to the way my dingaling swang Clickity Clack CLACK!
User avatar

By yepz Sat Jan 28, 2006 8:54 am
Turn your quantize ir TC off for starters and just study good breaks. Maybe even pick up some drum sticks
User avatar

By thegreatmuffin Sat Jan 28, 2006 9:05 am
yepz wrote:Turn your quantize ir TC off for starters and just study good breaks. Maybe even pick up some drum sticks


I would hit my beats so out of timing you wouldn't even want to listen. Or I could always tell you this is the new swing thing 8)
User avatar

By TicToc Sat Jan 28, 2006 9:19 am
put different TSig and swing on each element of the drums. Hats, kicks, snares, all at slightly different timingSigs and swing percentages.

Also experiment with triplets. They are, in a simple sense, maximum swing.

After you have entered a basic beat, use step editing to shift individual notes forward or backward a few ticks.

Experiment.
User avatar

By TBonus76 Sat Jan 28, 2006 7:11 pm
I like to get sufficiently liquored up, and turn off the quantize...no joke. If I have to quantize it, I like to do what TicToc said and move individual notes around using step edit. The swing featue of the quantize is nice, but it definately has a mechanical swing sound to it, so I try not to overuse it.

By pad-ophiliac Sat Jan 28, 2006 7:24 pm
use your ears and experiement. your ears are the most important tools you own when it comes to making beats.
User avatar

By TheFirstJimBo Sat Jan 28, 2006 7:40 pm
yeah, thats what I tried to tell beethoven :lol:

By pad-ophiliac Sat Jan 28, 2006 7:51 pm
TheFirstJimBo wrote:yeah, thats what I tried to tell beethoven :lol:


ok, ok, i guess there are some exceptions but in all fairness he wasn't always deaf, he lost his hearing later on. smartass :D
User avatar

By TheFirstJimBo Sun Jan 29, 2006 1:53 am
:twisted: :lol:
User avatar

By sensewondah Sun Jan 29, 2006 4:32 am
to start, pick one element of your drum kit.

for example, quantize the kick on the 1 and 3 or the 1,2,3 and 4. This will give your rhythm section a backbone.

then turn off the quantize, rock with your snare drum. if you have the kick on the 1 2 3 and 4 and snares on the 2 and 4 but they arent quantized, itll be close enough but will create that "swing" element.

add your hat last, no quant and thats really where you can get loose with it.

dont worry about what the numbers say, do what feels good.