(another) question about chopping breaks

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(another) question about chopping breaks

By artschi Tue Jan 24, 2006 3:03 pm
hi! i was reading the tutorials on mpc-samples.com:
"chopping samples" + "beat making on mpc2kxl":
i think the chopping samples tutorial works better for me, but not perfekt.....
i made few samples
from a drumloop like the tutorial says: bd clean, sn clean, sn + hh, hh clean, hh + sn ........
so i cant understand the second tutor "beatmaking mpc2kxl", there you have to know which tempo the loop is, then slice in 4 peaces, timestretch and much more and in the endresult you get are the same peaces of samples like the first tutor? or do i understand this wrong?
how do you slice beats? are there any links or other tutorials? dont beat me, know this question was asked often......
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By Living Bate Tue Jan 24, 2006 3:43 pm
I dont know the tutorials, but generally if I want to chop up sum schit I'll sample up the bit I want on a record then find what is a good looping point to make it a bar long.

Then once you've got that bar, you can cut that bar in half and have two half bar loops,...then cut those half bar loops in 2 and have quater bar loops etc.
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By Smoove03 Tue Jan 24, 2006 3:50 pm
man i throw a sample into adobe audition, highlight the part i want to chop out of it, copy it, paste it to new, save it and there you have it.

thats breakbeats of course like if your trying to get the individual drum hits out of them thats how i do it....i can get a clean kick, hat, or snare with that technique.

is that what your trying to do? or are you trying to slice samples like what the zoning feature can do for you?

By artschi Tue Jan 24, 2006 6:21 pm
hi, thx for answers. i dont like to make loops (i know how it works). i try to get individual drum hits. of course i know how it goes, but my problem is to chop individual hits so, that the beat is not so static like a drummachine, and thats the point of the tutorials. do you cut your slices exactly ie. bd from beginn to end or do you cut a bd with a hihat as one slice.... hope you know what i mean, my english is not so good.
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By sweetback Fri Jan 27, 2006 6:15 pm
artschi wrote:hi, thx for answers. i dont like to make loops (i know how it works). i try to get individual drum hits. of course i know how it goes, but my problem is to chop individual hits so, that the beat is not so static like a drummachine, and thats the point of the tutorials. do you cut your slices exactly ie. bd from beginn to end or do you cut a bd with a hihat as one slice.... hope you know what i mean, my english is not so good.


Try using the TRIM mode and changing the End Point. This way you can have just one Snare or one hihat or one bass drum, etc etc. . once you have the individual sounds you can replay them however you want. Does that help?
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By Living Bate Mon Jan 30, 2006 10:14 am
sorry duke I didnt realize you were talking drum breaks...I was just talking breaks
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By Jacpot Mon Jan 30, 2006 10:25 am
zone out! :wink:
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By Smoove03 Mon Jan 30, 2006 2:51 pm
artschi wrote:hi, thx for answers. i dont like to make loops (i know how it works). i try to get individual drum hits. of course i know how it goes, but my problem is to chop individual hits so, that the beat is not so static like a drummachine, and thats the point of the tutorials. do you cut your slices exactly ie. bd from beginn to end or do you cut a bd with a hihat as one slice.... hope you know what i mean, my english is not so good.

i know exactly what you mean. man it all depends on what you want to do. you can slice the BD just begin to end or you can slice it to where you want it. if that means that there's a hihat right after the kick, then so be it. its up to you man.

sometimes i do just the bd sometimes i do the bd and hat.

By Aster Mon Jan 30, 2006 7:40 pm
I think he means when you chop and play a different pattern with different groove and there are gaps in the air (or background noise).
If I'm right all I can say is it will sound better when you have more samples filling up the beat, but you can always have some air on a pad too to glue together the chops.
If that's not what you meant just ignore me.
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By Living Bate Tue Jan 31, 2006 8:39 am
yeh juz envelope dat chit

By artschi Wed Feb 01, 2006 12:07 pm
but you can always have some air on a pad too to glue together the chops

@Aster
Can you explain me this? do you slice a silence part from your loop and put it between drumhits?
thx for all tips

By Aster Thu Feb 02, 2006 12:47 am
If you are trying to preserve the flow of the break and just make some variations, you can sample some air out of the break, and fly that in where you have audible silent gaps. But like the guy above said you can just use an envelope to fade out the decay portion of the hits. You have more freedom to make different patterns that way but you lose some of the ambience of the original break.
I hope that's what you were asking.
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By Lampdog Mon Feb 06, 2006 7:57 pm
chopping drums from breaks?

sound forge, noise gate -45db threshold, release 200-500ms, auto region, drum beats, save to a folder. load into mpc. easy, lazy way to go about it.
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By dopedragon Mon Feb 20, 2006 7:34 am
lamp,
if you get a chance...

i just started using sf8, and so far i've just been using the autoregion function via bpm to cut up my samples, but i always have to go in and tweak the regions to get a perfect zero-crossing. will the method you suggested always hit the zeroes, or will i still have to go in and hit up the regions manually?

in the meantime, i'll try what you suggested and see if it works out.


thanks.dope.

By SUSHI AUDIO Tue Feb 21, 2006 6:55 pm
In soundforge if you go to options/preferences you can set it to 'click' to the nearest zero crossing when you click on a part of the wav. I am guessing that with this on doing what Lamp suggested above will mean that the auto-region will jump to the zero point crossing.

CHEEZE
SUSHI
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