Could we start an 'official bugs' thread?

how about instead of making a bug list, you should each put a track up you made with the 1000, i mean everyone was all bicchin about the OS update not comming out, and here it is now, and ya cryng, well at least i think im the only person here 100% happy with my 1000. peace im out

Since when am I crying..

I would like to see one precise thread instead of a bunch of "my #$% os 2 doesn't make me coffee" useless type threads.

I respect the moderators' choice since they have to deal w/ it.

But your comment is useless and off topic.

sleepersriddle, what you say makes sense to me, and probably a few other people, but it won't make any sense to most of the users of the 1k forum.

Compiling a list of bugs, error tracking, usability improvement, etc. are all essential parts of software development, but here it is labeled as "bitching" or "complaining."

You'd be better off starting your own forums.

*valentin* wrote:how about instead of making a bug list, you should each put a track up you made with the 1000, i mean everyone was all bicchin about the OS update not comming out, and here it is now, and ya cryng, well at least i think im the only person here 100% happy with my 1000. peace im out

Example #1

mpc3000 wrote:Now for my take. I would not encourage any type of 'bug tracking' or bug posting system. The best place for bugs is in a private exchange between the finder and Akai Pro. Sound silly but that is the best thing for the MPC1000 community. Public posting of commerical product bugs only scares away potential buyers and deprives the manufacturer of additional funds/resources to fix the bugs. It actually ends up working against the product and affects the existing owner base. This comes from experience in the field.

There are whole websites devoted to bugs in Microsoft, Apple (including iPod), Adobe and Macromedia products and these companies are doing just fine. And contrary to what you wrote, most "bugs" don't get fixed until there are enough complainers (complainers that sometimes organize petitions and class-action lawsuits).

flipnile wrote:And contrary to what you wrote, most "bugs" don't get fixed until there are enough complainers (complainers that sometimes organize petitions and class-action lawsuits).

that's not 100% true. designers/developers of software (in this case, Akai) knew it wasn't going to be bug free. they are working on an update but like i stated before, don't expect one within the next few weeks as the 1k is not the only machine they have. also as stated, they already know of what most of the bugs are.

and to everyone that wants a seaparate thread/sticky related to just bugs, get at tutor through a PM or something. it is his call, not the moderators. you talk about all these other companies that have dedicated websites just for bugs..... what you fail to realize, this is not an akai website. this site has no corporate affiliation with akai. so although your comment about the other companies may hold some merrit, it does not apply here.

sparq wrote:that's not 100% true. designers/developers of software (in this case, Akai) knew it wasn't going to be bug free. they are working on an update but like i stated before, don't expect one within the next few weeks as the 1k is not the only machine they have. also as stated, they already know of what most of the bugs are.

Actually, what I said is 100% true. I used the word "most" for a reason. And I am not expecting any updates, nor do I desire any at the moment.

sparq wrote:And to everyone that wants a seaparate thread/sticky related to just bugs, get at tutor through a PM or something. it is his call, not the moderators.

You could have simply said the above, instead of picking at what I wrote. I am not picking at any of the mods, or anyone else. I was simply stating the facts about the behaviour of this forum's users.

sparq wrote:you talk about all these other companies that have dedicated websites just for bugs..... what you fail to realize, this is not an akai website. this site has no corporate affiliation with akai. so although your comment about the other companies may hold some merrit, it does not apply here.

Think about what you just wrote. No company will allow too much negative information about its products on the company's own website. For that very reason, most of the user complaints, problems, etc. are to be found on third party (i.e. independent) websites.

No company will allow too much negative information about its products on the company's own website. For that very reason, most of the user complaints, problems, etc. are to be found on third party (i.e. independent) websites.

True... and that's part of the reason why Roland got rid of their messageboards a few years ago.

Anyway, I agree that a sticky topic that's updated with known bugs would be the smart move, for all the reasons that have been explained already.

No beef here with Tutor or the mods, and I'm not b!tching about any bugs either (2.10 is still a hell of alot better than 1.07... and bugs are a given, considering this type of an update). I just think it would be easier on everyone if we had a sticky for this.