making the most of limited ram (60, 950, SP...)

SLT: Did you get that sp1200 disk from my man? He claims it was sent out a few days ago. Please be sure to thank him once you receive it.

DRUMZ.1

Something Like That wrote:

sp12_freak wrote:Nice post !

I'm also thinking about coppin' a Numark PT-01 (can do 78RPM) which seems to be the best sounding portable turntable.

I saw Kev Brown using it and his **** sounds nice so I guess the PT-01 is cool. Anyone ever used it for sampling ?

I have a PT-01 and its ok for sampling. Not that good though, mainly use it for listening to records at my girls place, her grandparents and parents crib and whenever I go diggin the country. I also have a Stanton Str8-80. Now it's good for sampling @ 78 or whatever speed you want. Sampling at 78 rpm ain't rediculous, I flip alot of stuff at that speed.

Kersey, get another memory chip in that 60 and you'll be straight, specially if your using a S950. Thats more than enough sample time for anybody. Also, you can just compress them sounds and them pitch them again. (I think) I'm going to have to turn on my 60 and try it again, its been a while since I used that option. I mainly use it on bass and low frequency samples, but it makes kicks and snares sound kinda raggedy in a bad way. Good on sampled bass though, gives it a nice pleaseant buzz.

yeah, I got the disk about 2 days ago. It works nice too. I'ma thank him and send him a fresh record to show my appreciation. Would he rather have an old hip hop record or something nasty to sample?

And I still argue that there ain't nothing wrong with sampling at 78. Why the hell would you shell out more money for another sampler when you can squash it all in one machine. Sometimes the pitch does get f'd but sometimes it doesn't, depends on what your recording. I'll make a full track, 60 only and have 14.1 seconds left on a regular basis. If you got more than one sampler, there are ways around the 78prm messing up the pitch also.

Honestly dog, you of all the users on this forum are in no position to speak on such a matter -- Mister, "I've got every f'n vintage sampler on the market, yet I still manage to compose a beat in my mp60 with nearly 14 seconds remaining and with the greatest of ease." Homey, please don't even try pushing that 78 argument on me...hahahahahah----- HAHAHA

Yeah, he definitely prefers something nasty to sample over a hiphop classic. Which brings to mind, he has been looking for and old 1974 copy of Robert Palmer's, 'Sneakin' Sally Through the Alley' (Island) LP. I'm sure if you hook him up with that, he'd be elated!

And i'm just messing with you....I hope you realized that after I embellished your quote.

word up man. I'm about to crank up the SP1200 right now and do a nice little solo beat on it. I don't have that Palmer record but I got a storage unit full of sh*t so I'll pull something nice out of there for him.

"I was thinking about getting one of those turntables that play at 78 rpm, to use even less sample space. "

No need to buy more turntables...
Just sample into your MPC first, tune the sample up and sample into the SP. Send the sample back into the MPC and de-tune accordingly.
Save ya cash.

I didn't read the whole of this thread but I was going to bring something similar up regarding sampling at 78RPM.

I sample my 45's on my vestax portable at 78 and down tune. 33's at 78 cannot be downtuned enough to get back to the original tempo (even including decreasing the pitch controller on the turntable). From memory I think the lowest tuning setting (-120) is the equivalent of the sample being played at roughly +10% on a turntable maybe slightly more but its fairly close for 33RPM records. You're probably better off getting one of the vestax PDX turntables with the 50% pitch controls (I don't know if the standard +-10% pitch faders works with this as well) and doing it that way. You should be able to stay within the tuning constraints of the MPC then.

The point I was going to make was obviously I'm sampling on a 60. When I sampled the LP's at 78 and down tuned -120 I had something useable, however when we tried to load the samples up on my mates 2000XL it would have a fit and would only play back the original 78 speed sample! Looking into the 2KXL's tuning screen it could down tune to -200 which is more than 60's -120. I was just curious as to why it doesn't remember the tuning setting? as I say I done 7" records at 78 with no problems...

I experimented with the compress sound function

I have the impression that all it really does is pitching up the sample and resampling it. so when you use it afterwards, it needs to be pitched down...
so it's useless if you already sampled at 45, since all you'll get is a high pitched sound, even at -120. damn it, i need a 3000.

SLT: What's up with my man's record? YOU SLEEPING on that ish---- hahahah

Last time we rush a sp1200 disk out.....what's up with those beats too????

sorry drumz. I've had the flu for the last week and was working hardcore the week before that. If I get my energy back I'll ship something out tommorow. Tell your mans I sorry on the ungrateful seeming delays....

Sample vinyl at 45 rpm with the 1200 set at +8. When you detune it. 0 will be around -56 if I remember. I did a lot of records that way.