MPC for Jazz?

Hi all,
I've just ordered an MPC 1000 with the purposes of
1) Using drum loops for live gigs
2) Using it for my project studio (AW4416, Motif88, Focusrite, etc.) for drums when bringing in a live drummer/setting up a kit would be undesirable.

My question is, after a lot of google'ing and searching, I've come to the conclusion that the MPC is aimed more at the hip hop producer?
I do love hip hop, but I'm primarily a jazz musician. Are there any examples of the MPCs in jazz?
What about samples? I've only found samples targeted at the hip hop audiences. Anyone know where I could find samples of brushes, flams, riveted cymbals, etc.?

Thanks for your time,
Michael

a sampler is a sampler.. its not more for hiphop then jazz.. hiphop is just a music genre mostly based on sampling thats why its used alot.

I don't wanna say the MPC is gear more for the hip hop users, I think its just that hip hop make the biggest use of it. As for the samples that you want you imgingation is the limit. You could sample them right outa your motif into the MPC and sculpt them as you see fit. You can sample them from a real drummer at a few velocty levels and put them on the pads. You could even sample your fav jazz musicians drums breaks into your MPC chop them up and replay them how you want them to sound its all up to you

i'ts all about what sounds you put in it and what you make of the sounds while theyre in there
sample CDs are all over the web... search engines are great!
http://www.google.se/search?hl=sv&q=jaz ... ning&meta=

there is a Brush kit on the Akai site, I don't know how good they are but here you go.

http://www.akaipro.com/arc_kotw.html

It's down near the Live kits.

Pe@Ce

jazzmusician wrote:Hi all,
I've just ordered an MPC 1000 with the purposes of
1) Using drum loops for live gigs
2) Using it for my project studio (AW4416, Motif88, Focusrite, etc.) for drums when bringing in a live drummer/setting up a kit would be undesirable.

My question is, after a lot of google'ing and searching, I've come to the conclusion that the MPC is aimed more at the hip hop producer?
I do love hip hop, but I'm primarily a jazz musician. Are there any examples of the MPCs in jazz?
What about samples? I've only found samples targeted at the hip hop audiences. Anyone know where I could find samples of brushes, flams, riveted cymbals, etc.?

Thanks for your time,
Michael

Welcome!

as far as i see, you should be able to program any kind of drumbeat on a mpc...

since you're a jazz musician, i have a question too... i make experimental drum n bass and like to play with different time signatures and i'm wondering what time signatures is mostly used in jazz?

Thanks

I've released a Jazz CD entirely driven by the MPC 60 and am currently working on another that has some MPC4k on every track....I think it's a great tool for Jazz, especially the "smooth Jazz" and New Age because of all the keyboards and arpegio's typical to those genre's...

Thanks for all the helpful input guys!
Special thanks to enotide for the brush url (That'll help get me started) and to fader-pro for the encouragement and relief that someone is using an MPC for jazz.

psitech: Like any genre of music, there are many different styles within that genre.
In Jazz, you have; straight-ahead jazz, avant-guard, swing, dixieland, free-jazz, traditional and standards, fusion, etc.

In most straight-ahead, swing, and traditional jazz, most songs carry the time signatures (but not limited to) 4/4, 3/4, and 5/4.
However, most of it "swings". A waltz (3/4 time) is usually referred to as a "jazz waltz" because there is an emphasis to 'swing' the eighth notes.
And 4/4 is usually swung as a-ONE-and-a-TWO-and-a-THREE-and-a-FOUR.

Avant-guard, free-jazz, fusion, and experimental jazz however, can have some *crazy* time signatures. Most common being, 7/8, 5/3 as well as 6/8, 4/4, etc.
It's quite a challenge sometimes, when listening to or playing avant-guard, to even tell where the One is!

Listen to anything by Tony Williams, Vinnie Colaiuta, Benard Purdie for some great drumming.
Also, if you want to hear some bonafide funk beats, check out some old Herbie Hancock and the Headhunters or Weather Report.

Thanks again for all the input,
Michael

[quote="jazzmusician]

Avant-guard, free-jazz, fusion, and experimental jazz however, can have some *crazy* time signatures. Most common being, 7/8, 5/3 as well as 6/8, 4/4, etc.
It's quite a challenge sometimes, when listening to or playing avant-guard, to even tell where the One is!l[/quote]

Ain't that the Truth.I've tried some crazy stuff with different time sigs and it's almost impossible to tell where the one is.I think it's mainly because it comes and goes so fast you just miss it completely.
Nice to have you around though Mike.Just hang it there,research,practice and you'll be fine.

Welcome to the Family.

Peace.

Thanks jazzmusician

And here's another question for the mpc users

how would i go about to do say a 5/3 on the mpc?
i would have to set loop to off right??... and go from there since you cant set 5/3 as a time signature..

I tend to use the MPC in a linear fashion, (as if it were a tape machine) ignoring song mode entirely - you can copy and paste anything you want to repeat easily and you are not restrained by time sigs...it's as easy, if not easier that bouncing back and forth between sequence and song modes...

i have never worked that way, have to try that