Mpc 1000?

forgot: recordable track mutes are on the 2.5k now.

That does sound handy.

sleepersriddle wrote:

Glydez wrote:Besides looks with the new 1000 updates what are the major differences between the 1000 and the 2500

larger/different pads,

beat slicing includes an auto-hit-detect i think...
easier way of recording a long 'live' sample and putting it into the track
more midi ports on the back,
a couple of extra knobs and data entry buttons to make life easier??
cd drive/burning options,

...??

personally i wouldn't care about much of that except for the different pads.
i have tried mpc2000xl in the store and it definitely felt different from the 1k pads.

i tend to think that recordable track mutes would give me an excuse to be lazy, honestly. not that more features are not good, but i think you should intentionally program all your stuff rather than just mute it out when you don't want to play.

half the time, i try not to use trackmutes at all. that way i can render my entire song down to 1 sequence. makes it easier for tracking purposes. if i don't want something to play, i just take it out of the seq entirely.

Antonym wrote:i tend to think that recordable track mutes would give me an excuse to be lazy, honestly. not that more features are not good, but i think you should intentionally program all your stuff rather than just mute it out when you don't want to play.

half the time, i try not to use trackmutes at all. that way i can render my entire song down to 1 sequence. makes it easier for tracking purposes. if i don't want something to play, i just take it out of the seq entirely.

no doubt, man.

Truth is I love the 1k. I'm just trying to think in some other people's shoes, they seem to like some of the 2.5k features.

For me it only comes down to: nice small size (1k) vs. arguably better pads (2.5k). Even if the price was similar I'm not sure which I'd choose.

When you say better pads what makes them better? Sorry im new to the world of MPC's really and i dont understand what can make them better. Please explain? Thanx

definitely.

i'm actually working on a couple prototypes of my own pad design which i would implement into the 1k...1k performance pads. i think i could create a design that beats akai's and refit my entire machine with my own pads for under 100 dollars.

if this works, i'll put instructions online on how to mod out the pads on your 1k. i'll also offer to do it myself for a nominal fee.

more on this later.

peace.
nym

sleepersriddle wrote:

sparq wrote:

sleepersriddle wrote:depends on your style of music

if you are 'old school 100% sample based hip hop purist' then maybe the 2500...

otherwise get the 1k plus synth.

just curious.... why would you say that, when in OS they are 98% identical. ok well 95%, same sample engine. there are more physical differences than software

Maybe the thing I just posted above would make it more clear?

I'm just saying, I don't hear a lot of synth tweaking in old-school hip hop music and someone who really wanted to go the '2 turntables and mpc, nothing else' route might think the 2500 was worth it just for the better pad feel.

I'm not about to argue with you that the 1k does 90% of what 2500 can do, I'm totally satisfied with my 1k.

nah no arguing.... i was just curious why you would say that. it's all good.

Glydez wrote:When you say better pads what makes them better? Sorry im new to the world of MPC's really and i dont understand what can make them better. Please explain? Thanx

The 2k/2500 pads are larger (which i dont care about), but also they seem to be a little softer and have more travel to them and have more of a 'contact' feeling when you hit the point of triggering a note.

Now with my 1k i dont have any problems entering fast accurate beats, but when it comes to the velocity sensitivity i think the 2.5k would let me make different loudness variations in my beats with more accuracy.

Anyone else agree with that description? I didn't play with the 2kxl for that long or anything...

The only thing I miss with my 1k is that the pads should have been better. The cd drive in the 2500 is disgusting, it belongs in odd Zoom hd recorders, not in an mpc

But waht does transient detection mean?

orjanbeats wrote:The only thing I miss with my 1k is that the pads should have been better. The cd drive in the 2500 is disgusting, it belongs in odd Zoom hd recorders, not in an mpc

But waht does transient detection mean?

Transient detection means it will try to detect the loud attack at the beginning of each drum sound, so it can auto-slice based on where each drum hit begins.

recycle does this, for example.

dont forget the tilt screen on the 2500.

TheFirstJimBo wrote:dont forget the tilt screen on the 2500.

f*** the tilt screen, dont need it




(speaking for me personally of course)

well then f*ck you j/k

what about grid edit in the 2500..

bees80 wrote:what about grid edit in the 2500..

IMO this sorta takes away from the whole ideology behind the MPC. I was a bit gutted when deciding to buy the MPC1k that the 2500 had grid edit whilst the 1K did not. I'm now quite glad it doesnt however as in the last month I have learnt about ticks (96 ticks in a quarter note) and how by moving 1-4 tiks can alter the groove and looseness of a beat. This is something I can apply to any sequencer now, while also meaning I dont need to rely on 'Swing'.

Now coming from a software angle where Grid Edit is the norm, you may learn that by pushing the little midi block on screen back a little it loosens the groove. However that's all youre learning "push the hit back A BIT" rather than "push the hit back 3 ticks". Theres no objective indication of how much youre moving that hit so what happens when you come to use a sequencer that doesnt look the same or doesnt even have a grid edit? yeah you could probably finds out how much that block is moving by but when are you gonna take the time to fathom it all out when youre in the comfort zone of knowing that with 'your' sequencer you just move it by 'a bit.'

I am guessing however that the MPC2500 probably makes it pretty clear how much you are moving that hit by? A position counter at the top changing as you move the hit about no? If its pretty much a clearer version of Steo Edit then it would be a useful tool to have. When I first looked at Step Edit I was like what the huh?!!?! How am I meant to understand that? It becomes pretty clear though once you delve into it. Even easier if you put each sound ona seperate track. If not just look out for the pad number.

SUSHI