basslines - module or mpc?

this is for those who don't sample samplechop their basslines, but rather compose them.

do you use bass pgms on the mpc for this, or modules? for a long time, all my bass came from this pgm i had for my mpc. i'd just tweak it up later on to make it sound different. fortunately, i got real tired of that.

now, i build my bass sound from scratch on the maelstrom in reason. this is pretty flexible, sounds great, and eventually i just resample it into my mpc so i have control over the actual wav instead of just the midi notes.

basslines have always been difficult for me, at least sometimes. when a song just refuses to let a bassline get put in, i just low end theory it...but i'm never content with just that, sounds too simple.

anyone else have processes they'd like to share? issues? etc?
nym

module for me!!

that is if the low end theory is omitted

low end theory is a spot of brilliance from the 90s that doesn't really fly anymore except in a pinch where you filter out everything but the lowest of lows in your looped sample and layer it as a bassline. it's more complicated than just that, but there are tons of website tutorials.

problem is that it's the exact same notes, just different freqs. you can record low end basslines to tape or resample em someplace else and effect em pretty nice...like i say they work in a pinch but you can usually do better in this day and age.

Definitely modules, that's the ill combo right there.

Its the best of both worlds cause on an analog or va synth i find that making a bass patch, certain specific notes will really nail it (ie it won't sound as good if i play a different note.) so i can just sample that note and re-pitch it to get something more 'consistent'.

That's my approach of the week, anyway .

i would recommend gettin a module man foreal. its fun and also adds a lot when you play along with a sample. you know?

but there's plenty you can do with a filtered bassline. you can actually throw it on 16 levels and play out your own bassline there. hold the note longer and it'll start to loop the original then switch it up and play another note or something.....

oh and not that this had anything to do with anything, but i didnt respond to doom simply because I dont think he's really here to learn.

If you get tired of making basslines with the MPC, here is 112 different bass sounds you can tweak and put up in 16 levels:

Bass.rar

I don't remember where I got it from... Could be one of Nym's pgms...

i love it here man i swear...

thanks for the samples

Smoove03 wrote:i love it here man i swear...

thanks for the samples

You're welcome Have you checked out the "AccousticSub.rar" pgm I uploaded? It's in the MPC1000 section, "How to turn on note-off" thread

Smoove03 wrote:i would recommend gettin a module man foreal. its fun and also adds a lot when you play along with a sample. you know?

but there's plenty you can do with a filtered bassline. you can actually throw it on 16 levels and play out your own bassline there. hold the note longer and it'll start to loop the original then switch it up and play another note or something.....

oh and not that this had anything to do with anything, but i didnt respond to doom simply because I dont think he's really here to learn.

What type of sound module are you currently using?

I have a couple old modules that I dont use. but I do have a planet phatt hooked up right now.

i had a jv880 and i still have a proteus/1 and roland mbd1 (that i dont use)

How is that Planet Phatt?

its pretty cool. i wish it had some nice piano sounds on it but i dont hear anything like that. thats where the 880 comes in. but its ok. lots of sounds on it

sleepersriddle wrote:Definitely modules, that's the ill combo right there.

Its the best of both worlds cause on an analog or va synth i find that making a bass patch, certain specific notes will really nail it (ie it won't sound as good if i play a different note.) so i can just sample that note and re-pitch it to get something more 'consistent'.

That's my approach of the week, anyway .

If the timbre (character) of the sound is changing as you play up and down the keyboard, it sounds like you dont have your filter keyboard tracking on.
with it off the filter allways stays at the same freq, so when you play higher/lower notes its cuts more or less, changing the tone as you play. with it on it'll follow the keyboard, so the timbre will stay consistent over the whole keyboard.

those old $100 casio keyboards have some dope bass, but your best bet would be to get an actuall bass guitar and learn to play it you'll catch on easy and it pays off in the end too. If not get a module

I used to use my fantom for bass But I got tired of that week bass. Ive been playing bass through the mpc now. Sounds so much better imo. I just sample a short basstone or bass guitar off a jazz record and use autocrom to layer it across the pads. I think chopped bass played on pads sounds better than bass played on a keyboard sometimes. The pads give it that "stutter"