Throw your Fantom Triton Motif out the window.

Man for the past few months my Fantom has been in the fuking closet collecting dust. Im tired of the cheezy azz sounds found in any synth they are just so wack. So For the last few months Ive built up my own library of sounds just straight off record and been using Autochromatic on my 2kxl to play my own sound Library. I like sample some gritty azz piano off an old Jazz record and spread it across the keys of my MIDI controller Using AutoCrom.

The sound is 100% better then using keyboard presets. Ive built up a massive librarie of autocromatic programs on the mpc with the dopest instruments u could think of. WAYY BETTER THEN ANY KEYBOARD U CAN BUY IN THE STORE.

So my advise to my XL users. Dig for your own instruments and build your own library. AUTO CROMATIC is your FREIND. B.E.Z.

Of course Most peeps know this. But Im just trying to STRESS The point

Yo, you make a whole piano program with one piano sample and auto-chromatic assign?

yes exactly

Bump. Damn so none feels me on this? Fine than keep using your oversaturated preset synths. Ill dig for mines.

Im finna sell my Fantom back to GC

don't you find that causes issues for you, such as the room noise/crackle getting pitched up with the instrument? ie, causing the whole eventual mickie mousing of pitching stuff up too much and playing it alongside lower notes?

i've never really gotten into using 1 note to make a chromatic pgm because it sounds so fake...i mean, i've used it well a couple times for sure but maybe i do it wrong otherwise. usually i just sample a bunch of notes and use just those, reordered. if i pitch 1, i usually pitch em all to avoid offpitched room noise...

Jacpot wrote:yes exactly

So it's no problem to you that the highest notes last like .1 secs?

I loop them so that they last longer than one second. Then I change the decay on the loops so that they have some "release" on them

Antonym wrote:don't you find that causes issues for you, such as the room noise/crackle getting pitched up with the instrument? ie, causing the whole eventual mickie mousing of pitching stuff up too much and playing it alongside lower notes?

i've never really gotten into using 1 note to make a chromatic pgm because it sounds so fake...i mean, i've used it well a couple times for sure but maybe i do it wrong otherwise. usually i just sample a bunch of notes and use just those, reordered. if i pitch 1, i usually pitch em all to avoid offpitched room noise...

Some times u need to sample a couple a different notes into the mpc one at a higher octave and one at a lower octave.
If u are playin the middle octaves like around bank B somewhere I dont have these issues. You just gotta treat each instrument differently

WELCOME
ive never liked the fantom because of those sounds. nice piece but not my thing

i still don't get the fukin difference between 16 levels and autochromatic. the problem i have with 16 level is as mentioned above, the length of the sample changes. i know thats what its supposed to do but i also thought that autochromatic feature solves this issue. but now you guys saying that autochromatic also changes the sample lenght. they both spread a sample accross pads and both change the length of the sample. so what the fuk is the difference. please someone take the time to explain this to me, its driving me **** crazy. ****. thanks, peace. when i make a pgm in bluebox (which isn't that often, only when i need to bulk load) many times it will say conflict with so and so pads, so i make the pads chromatic and the conflict dissapears. now i think i messed those up cause if you put one sample in a pgm and make the pads autochro, it spreads that sample accross all the pads and i been putting different samples on all 64 pads, then making autochromatic? god dammit, i feel like a aint ever gonna make this hurdle, what the fuk am i missin?

pad-ophiliac wrote:but i also thought that autochromatic feature solves this issue. but now you guys saying that autochromatic also changes the sample lenght. they both spread a sample accross pads and both change the length of the sample. so what the fuk is the difference.

Autochromatic is 64 levels vice 16.
Autochromatic creates a 64 level program.

That is about the only difference from 16 levels
I can think of at the moment.

It doesn't solve any 16 level lengthen shorten issues. It's the same deal.

Autochromatic hits every key/note along a 61 key keyboard.
16 levels skips a few keys/notes between levels.

pad-ophiliac wrote:i still don't get the fukin difference between 16 levels and autochromatic. the problem i have with 16 level is as mentioned above, the length of the sample changes. i know thats what its supposed to do but i also thought that autochromatic feature solves this issue. but now you guys saying that autochromatic also changes the sample lenght. they both spread a sample accross pads and both change the length of the sample. so what the fuk is the difference. please someone take the time to explain this to me, its driving me **** crazy. ****. thanks, peace. when i make a pgm in bluebox (which isn't that often, only when i need to bulk load) many times it will say conflict with so and so pads, so i make the pads chromatic and the conflict dissapears. now i think i messed those up cause if you put one sample in a pgm and make the pads autochro, it spreads that sample accross all the pads and i been putting different samples on all 64 pads, then making autochromatic? god dammit, i feel like a aint ever gonna make this hurdle, what the fuk am i missin?

16 levels and autochrome are completely different! I was trying to explain this to Peezy the other day. He didnt understand what I was trying to say but when eventually he tried them and compared 2 weeks later he hit me up and said he understood

Bassically autochromatic spreads the sample across 64 pads. If u use ure midi keyboard to play the notes it will play in PIANO NOTES even the sharps! not just in semi tones. Ok for instance u take one sound and assign it to 16 levels. If you play the LEFT COLUMN of pads its the Exact same Note just at DIFFERENT Octaves, So in reailty 16 levels only gives u 4 notes at different octaves.

Autochrom does not make the sample length Longer. You tend to run into this problem more when u go up the scale on the piano. To solve this, You can either sample two piano sounds one at a lower octave and one at a higher octave, OR U CAN JUST SAMPLE ONE PIANO AND SET THE HIGHER NOTES TO LOOP AND ADJUST THE ATTACK AND DECAY POINTS SO THAT ITS SEEMLESS AND THAT WHEN U LET GO OF THE KEY U GET SOME SORT OF REALEASE

Hope that helps...

Just try it out

Damn Lamp We must have posted at the same time

This is bugging me out and I never thought about this until now. A chromatic scale has 13 steps. There are 16 pads on the MPC. All this time I was thinking each pad represented each note in a chromatic scale. Which notes in the chromatic scale are being left out?