Technical questions for the MPC2000xl and the MPC2000
By acq1 Wed Mar 22, 2006 7:39 pm
When you guys record your beats do you record them directly from the MPC to your software. I've been recording my beats directly from my MOC to Sonar. It seem like it diminishes the quality of the sound. When my cans are hooked up to the MPC it sounds so much better than it does after I record to Cakewalk. What can I do to make these beats sound better?

Help a brotha out....

Peace!
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By Smoove03 Wed Mar 22, 2006 7:45 pm
mnh2410 wrote:Record the sounds individually so u can have a better mix of each sound therefore leading to a quality sounding beat.


adding on to this..

you'll be able to eq and add anything to each sound instead of the beat as a whole.

OK

By acq1 Wed Mar 22, 2006 7:46 pm
Should I be running the MPC through Compression before it gets to my computer?
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By Smoove03 Wed Mar 22, 2006 7:49 pm
up to you i guess...i would actually compress only what needs to be compressed - i.e. drums....

my mixer actually has a compressor on it, so if i use the comp. on my mixer, it will be before the beat is recorded. but i usually wait until i have everything tracked out. then onto the processing work
By acq1 Wed Mar 22, 2006 7:59 pm
Any tips on how to get my beats to sound louder after recording without distorting them. I plan on having them mastered so they say not to use any compression on maximizers on the final bus.....
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By Smoove03 Wed Mar 22, 2006 8:15 pm
when you're tracking or recording, watch those led levels. if its clipping (in the red) then chances are its distorting. i usually normalize all my tracks.
By kraster Thu Mar 23, 2006 1:18 pm
acq1 wrote:Any tips on how to get my beats to sound louder after recording without distorting them. I plan on having them mastered so they say not to use any compression on maximizers on the final bus.....


It's up to you really. Record the tracks individually into Sonar and apply the compression on each track individually. Watch your attack and release rates. For drums the attack should be quite high and release quite low so you don't lose the front of the hit. Compression can make stuff louder but it can also destroy all the little details in the beat if you use it too much.
By politeone Fri Mar 24, 2006 3:38 pm
Yo man, i think you might want to consider what you are going thru to get to your Software. Your sound is only gonna be as good as your cables and soundcard.. make sure you have your settings for your sound card right.. you know the whole balanced, unbalanced stuff... dont know what card you are using though.. you shouldn't have to worry about compression all that stuff yet if youre not hearing what u were hearing out of ur MPC.. get ur recording right first cause compressing eqing a bad recording is gonna just frustrate u man. as they say.. crap in, crap out. so i'd say focus on making sure your soundcard is set up right is a good one and ur cables are good... then process in software however u want to once you get recording done as it sounded to u out of MPC..
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By Smoove03 Fri Mar 24, 2006 3:43 pm
kraster wrote:
acq1 wrote:Any tips on how to get my beats to sound louder after recording without distorting them. I plan on having them mastered so they say not to use any compression on maximizers on the final bus.....


It's up to you really. Record the tracks individually into Sonar and apply the compression on each track individually. Watch your attack and release rates. For drums the attack should be quite high and release quite low so you don't lose the front of the hit. Compression can make stuff louder but it can also destroy all the little details in the beat if you use it too much.


i never did understand the compression thing much. i just play with the settings. but all that ratio and stuff, i have no idea what it means lol
By mikey beats Sun Mar 26, 2006 7:53 pm
Smoove03 wrote:
kraster wrote:
acq1 wrote:Any tips on how to get my beats to sound louder after recording without distorting them. I plan on having them mastered so they say not to use any compression on maximizers on the final bus.....


It's up to you really. Record the tracks individually into Sonar and apply the compression on each track individually. Watch your attack and release rates. For drums the attack should be quite high and release quite low so you don't lose the front of the hit. Compression can make stuff louder but it can also destroy all the little details in the beat if you use it too much.


i never did understand the compression thing much. i just play with the settings. but all that ratio and stuff, i have no idea what it means lol


Compression:

its simple really, all u are doing is reducing the difference between the loudest and quietest levels in the recoring or sound, i.e. reducing the 'dynamic range'.

Imagine recording a very excited artist, who when in front of the mic keeps on swaying from left to right and can't keep still...

as u can imagine, the recording will have very varied (or dynamic) volume levels....i.e. relatively loud parts (where the artist was positioned directly in front of the mic) and relatively quiet parts (where the artist swayed from left to right and wasn't directly in front of the mic)

It can be said therefore, that the recording is dynamic. Cue compression!
Compression reduces this dynamic range (i.e. the difference between the loudest and quietest parts)

So when u set the threshold, u are picking the level (in dB) above which the compression kicks in. The ratio determines the amount of compression that is applied!

E.g. Threshold: -20dB; ratio: 2:1. All this means is that ALL the sound above -20dB will be compressed (i.e. reduced in volume) by a ratio of 2:1 (i.e halved), thus bringing the levels above -20dB closer to the levels below -20dB. This, as u can imagine, smoothes out the dymanic range and allows u to forget the traumatic experience of recording the very excited artist who couldn't stay still!!!

With drums (say the kick drum), if they were sampled (i.e. taken from a commercial record), they would hav most likely already been compressed and chances are wen u program them, they'll all hav the same level. These need less [or no] compression than say drums which you actually recorded with mics, as the drummer (unless extremely experienced) would hav hit the kick drum at different velocities, therefore producing different levels, which u might want smoothened out.

Dnt forget that compression isn't always desirable! For instance u may hav recorded or programmed an instrument which exhibits a very dynamic range that adds to its character...so use compression wisely and not just for the sake of it. Only last year, i used to compress EVERYTHIN jus to increase the percieved volume of ALL my tracks. BIG mistake! All my trax had no character or intersting dynamics. I therefore had to go bak and re-mix all of them.

Hope this helped...and sorry if i put u to sleep!

If u need more help...jus ask

Peace
By acq1 Tue Mar 28, 2006 8:14 pm
I hooked up mt Delta 44 soundcard and got some monitors... Problem solved... Beats are sounding tigt... Thanks to all for the help.


Peace!!!