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By Lampdog Fri Jan 23, 2004 2:58 am
My friends computer crashed because of a virus. I couldn't get anything to work after that so we just reloaded XP. Now when recording from his MPC2kxl into his M Audio Delta 44 he gets this crackling noise and it only happens when recording not playing. Can anyone here help him out. I'm at his house right now so he is explaining his problem to me.
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By beets Fri Jan 23, 2004 3:18 am
Has he gotten rid of the virus yet?? Thats crucial, that ish could eat up his files even his recorded ish!!! Try a System Restore and Disk Defragment. Peace
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By Lampdog Fri Jan 23, 2004 3:23 am
Yeah, we tried that shit already. That bullshit doesn't work at all. The noise just keeps coming back even after we reloaded XP, it's possible that it's the sound card but I wanna ask around before he goes out and gets another one..

By 247beatz Fri Jan 23, 2004 3:31 am
download service pack 1
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By Lampdog Fri Jan 23, 2004 4:21 am
Got it installed already. No happs still with the crackle during recording. I know it's not the MPC cause it only happens during recording, it's the PC somehow but I don't know what.. My best guess is the sound card (delta44) is bad or it's system noise like small spikes but why don't they (spkies) happen during playback via MPC? (I'm at home now)

By elmacaco Fri Jan 23, 2004 4:29 am
check his soundcard settings, ASIO and such.
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By itchyvinyl Fri Jan 23, 2004 5:14 am
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By itchyvinyl Fri Jan 23, 2004 5:15 am
You might need to physically remove the sound card/remove it from the device list.....and then re-install it and re-install the drivers.

It seems like you could do all that without physically removing the card, but it's happened to me before where I had to take the card all the way out and re-install before it would work right.
Anyway, something to try.
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By Lampdog Fri Jan 23, 2004 6:09 am
"itchyvinyl You might need to physically remove the sound card/remove it from the device list.....and then re-install it and re-install the drivers.
It seems like you could do all that without physically removing the card, but it's happened to me before where I had to take the card all the way out and re-install before it would work right. Anyway, something to try."

"elmacaco check his soundcard settings, ASIO and such."

This is what I did before I came to the forums cause I know how a n a l that LAMPDOG guy is sometimes..

(not in any particular order)
I reinstalled the OS.

I did the svcpk 1 cause I know there are many problems and bugs without.

Logically removed the sound card and all drivers related to it.

Did registry cleanup via a registry cleaner, rebooted and problem still came up.

Checked all wires for frays and cracks, checked tight/seated connections, checked for anything/everything close to any pwr source for electromagnetic interference.

The only thing left to do is physically move the PCI to another slot, reconfigure/reinstall again, it's that or just the breakoutbox and/or delta44 PCI interface is bad or going bad. The Delta is about 2 years old and has been used heavily in a non-mobile desktop environment..

I just had a feeling Itchy and EL would come to my aid as I'm sure others would also but my spidey sense was tingling..

By BreakMyFever Fri Jan 23, 2004 9:18 am
This is what I suggest you to do:

1. Remove the Delta 44 PCI-card physically (do this very carefully, read the instructions in your manual before doing this).

2. Reinstall Windows XP, and with "reinstalling" I mean remove the NTFS partition on which you installed Windows XP, i.e. your C-partition, and create a new one (you can all do this during the installation of Windows XP). So, do not just re-format your existing C-partition, but delete it and create a new one.

3. Ones your installation is finished, install all Critical Updates with Windows Update (this will take some time because some critical updates you have to install seperately from the others). Check the Critical Updates with Windows Update until there are none left so you know you installed them all.

4. Download the LATEST DRIVER for your Delta 44 soundcard. I checked the m-audio website and the latest driver dates from December 26, 2003.

5. Shutdown your system, open your case, and put your Delta 44 PCI-card in a free PCI-slot (again, do this very carefully). Check whether there is no dust in that free PCI-slot. Make sure it is not next to your network-card (it is known that in some cases a network-card interferes a soundcard causing noise when using that soundcard).

6. Restart your system and install the latest driver. Make sure there is no anti-virus program running in the background during this installation.
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By shyda Fri Jan 23, 2004 6:52 pm
m audio are just known for shitty soundcards so that could be it(I have audio phile 2496).
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By Lampdog Fri Jan 23, 2004 7:17 pm
BreakMyFever wrote:This is what I suggest you to do:

1. Remove the Delta 44 PCI-card physically (do this very carefully, read the instructions in your manual before doing this). OK, I will do that next time I go to his crib.

2. Reinstall Windows XP, and with "reinstalling" I mean remove the NTFS partition on which you installed Windows XP, i.e. your C-partition, and create a new one (you can all do this during the installation of Windows XP). So, do not just re-format your existing C-partition, but delete it and create a new one. Did that last time.

3. Ones your installation is finished, install all Critical Updates with Windows Update (this will take some time because some critical updates you have to install seperately from the others). Check the Critical Updates with Windows Update until there are none left so you know you installed them all. That too

4. Download the LATEST DRIVER for your Delta 44 soundcard. I checked the m-audio website and the latest driver dates from December 26, 2003.
Did not do that

5. Shutdown your system, open your case, and put your Delta 44 PCI-card in a free PCI-slot (again, do this very carefully). Check whether there is no dust in that free PCI-slot. Make sure it is not next to your network-card (it is known that in some cases a network-card interferes a soundcard causing noise when using that soundcard). I never knew this, HMM, interesting.

6. Restart your system and install the latest driver. Make sure there is no anti-virus program running in the background during this installation. Already did that


misterv wrote:these might help against viruses:


http://www.pandasoftware.com/activescan/

http://housecall.trendmicro.com/
I will try both of these, he uses norton systems works 2003, AdAaware along with ZoneAlarm firewall right now..

they are both free online antivirus scanners, they check your computer for viruses and destroy the viruses whenever posible


I will definitely forward this whole thread to him and tell him to get busy or he can wait until I visit and we can do this, good looking out wit the info fa sho.. tks
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By Gambles Fri Jan 23, 2004 7:26 pm
shyda wrote:m audio are just known for **** soundcards so that could be it(I have audio phile 2496).


I dont agree. I have the Quattro and have never expirienced a problem. I did have to tweak it, but once that was done I've not had a problem. Check with the m audio forum, maybe they can give you some tips or assist you in getting the best out of your sound card.

Uno/1 :wink:

gams

By Madness Sun Jan 25, 2004 1:42 am
Don't ever Dis the M-Audio soundcards they are one of the most compatible around. I have a Delta 66 and it works fine. Here is my list of things I must do to get a rock solid recording PC with my DELTA.

1. Increase the Latency settings on the Delta Control pannel if you are getting clicks and pops this is the first thing to try. Make sure your Recording app is set to use the M-Audio ASIO

2. Make sure the Delta is not sharing an IRQ in controll panel with any other device, USB , VIDIO card. IT MUST BE ON ITS OWN IRQ!!!

3. When you install XP use STANDARD PC mode. It doesn't share IRQ's and is the known way to avoid Sound Card problems in XP. This is the most important thing for a hassle free music PC. some time you may not need to do it if the above works but I do it anyway and eliminates many hassles.

4. Experiment with drivers! I don't use the latest drivers just because they are there. I had crackly problems and rolled backward to a driver that worked best for me and experimented with Increasing Latency. I am using the 5.10.25 driver even though 5.10.29 is the latest. I Find that the 5.12 drivers worked best for me for quite some time! Then, when I reinstalled XP 12mths later I ended up on the Newer driver because the old one was creating issues. in CUBASE SX !!

I emphasise "STANDARD PC" mode. You can change it from within control pannel by expanding the PC device it will say "ACPI" mode and update the driver from the XP cd and change it to "STANDARD PC" and reboot. This will ensure your DELTA will be on its own IRQ!!! Also, set your IRQ's from within your BIOS and change your bios mode to NO PLUG AND PLAY OS even though XP is plug and play this will control your IRQ's from the BIOS which is more effective I find.