Discuss the various methods you use in music production, from compressor settings to equipment type.

By john doe Thu Jan 09, 2003 2:25 pm
just a short question: the other day i was reading that rjd2 uses a mpc 2000xl and records straight to adat, ie he doesn't use any external devices.  how does one layer so many samples on the mpc. once i've chopped a few samples i run out of space to assign the samples to the pads. any thoughts[/color]
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By counterspace Thu Jan 09, 2003 2:31 pm
He probably layers them on ADAT tracks[/color]
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By itchyvinyl Thu Jan 09, 2003 8:01 pm
Wow, do you really run out of pad space? That's a lot of samples.  
256 samples can be held and assigned at once in the MPC2000xl.
4 Programs X 4 Pad Banks X 16 Pads = 256[/color]

By KoolSha78 Thu Jan 09, 2003 8:08 pm
what is rjd2?[/color]

By lex horton Fri Jan 10, 2003 12:50 am
you could do that album on an MPC easily, he would only have used the adat to give more tracks to the desk for individual eqing  at mix down but you could do most of that album with one programs woth of pads. I you know the breaks he uses he hasn't done that much, what he has done is done well though. It's also properly mastered (at the lodge) which fixes that sort of mix alot.

lex[/color]

By john doe Fri Jan 10, 2003 10:04 am
thanks for all of your responses. a few short answers:

counterspace: i doubt you're right. not layering samples until recording a song to adat would be way to tedious. to put a song together you'd have to know if the samples really blend properly.

itchyvinyl: this was the answer i was hoping for. i tried to add more samples to the other programs (in the program function by selecting DRUM2 etc.) the other day but all it did was overwrite the samples i had already assigned to the first program. i would appreciate it if you could elaborate...

koolsha: rjd2 is - a dj shadow clone but nonetheless talented -producer who just released an instrumental producer album (on def jux). if you're interested in music that pushs the limit of sample based production i strongly recommend a listen of the album. actually if you are new to that kind of music i'd recommend dj shadow's entroducing even more.

lex: again, i question this answer. although rjd2 uses some longer samples most are chopped. i'd even go so far as to say that he uses more chops than dj shadow (opinions?). i have to admit that i do not know most of the breaks he uses but i can hear that he has actually done quite a lot. his music may not be the most original but it is pretty sophisticated (at least in my opinion).[/color]

By john doe Fri Jan 10, 2003 1:25 pm
right on! thanks for your help.[/color]
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By turn Fri Jan 10, 2003 2:25 pm
john doe wrote:a dj shadow clone[/color]

my thoughts exactly[/color]

By john doe Fri Jan 10, 2003 2:35 pm
turn wrote:
john doe wrote:a dj shadow clone

my thoughts exactly[/color]

but look at it this way: wouldn't you prefer a good dj shadow clone over a swizz beats clone (or uninspired hip hop producers in general)?[/color]
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By counterspace Fri Jan 10, 2003 4:03 pm
John,

My answer was based on the premiss that you said you had already filled up the mpc and were out of space. That's why I said he might layer them on ADAT tracks. I didn't realize you didn't know how to add multiple programs.

I agree with you about having DJ shadow clones over a Swizz beats clone, but what's up John Doe isn't a very original name.[/color]

By lex horton Fri Jan 10, 2003 4:45 pm
with 4 programs, 64 sounds a program you shouldn't run out of space. you could always do what shadows done and by another mpc. aparently the bomb squad used to sync up loads of SPs to get anough sample time.
anyway, there's plenty of space in a 2000, if you chop alot you actually use less memory space anyway.

lex[/color]