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By aaron Sun Jan 25, 2004 8:55 pm
I am looking into buying a 8outs board + mixer

could you gents direct me somewhere

right now im looking at some behringer products

I have a 200 budget on the mixer

thanks for help ahead of time
aaron-kwiet
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By BRAVO Sun Jan 25, 2004 9:21 pm
8 OUTs or INs???
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By Prah_860_ Mon Jan 26, 2004 12:25 am
BRAVO wrote:8 OUTs or INs???


i don't think he has the 8 outs on the mpc and he wants to cop that plus get a mixer.............

http://www.behringer.com/02_products/gr ... 3&lang=ENG

aaron...get your shop on!

Bymaz Mon Jan 26, 2004 7:07 pm
Prah_860_ wrote:
BRAVO wrote:8 OUTs or INs???


i don't think he has the 8 outs on the mpc and he wants to cop that plus get a mixer.............

http://www.behringer.com/02_products/gr ... 3&lang=ENG

aaron...get your shop on!

Ouch, maybe it's just me but I could not recommend a behringer product. Sure the prices might be sweet, but they also don't build quality products if you ask me.

I'd personally look into a Yamaha digital mixer.

-maz
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By aaron Mon Jan 26, 2004 10:16 pm
can anybody personally vouch for any behringer product.

im on a tight budget, and there sh!t looks very nice

By Needle201 Tue Jan 27, 2004 12:24 am
Behringer really catched up in the last two years...Their Mixers were shyte a while ago, but now you cannot really go wrong with a Behringer.. at least compared to a Mackie..
That means, if you aim for a Mackie, you might as well get a Behringer.
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By DOVESKI Tue Jan 27, 2004 1:05 am
I used to think having a behringer would do, but with my new mixer, i can turn a snare into a crazy sounding kick with the sweepable EQ, its crazy, dont underestimate the power of a fat mixer, my new desk opened up all this shit i wasnt seeing before in making music. save up a couple extra dollars for something worth it and for the time being get a little shit behringer 1604 and 1202 top hold you over.
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By Prah_860_ Tue Jan 27, 2004 4:33 am
maz wrote:
Prah_860_ wrote:
BRAVO wrote:8 OUTs or INs???


i don't think he has the 8 outs on the mpc and he wants to cop that plus get a mixer.............

http://www.behringer.com/02_products/gr ... 3&lang=ENG

aaron...get your shop on!

Ouch, maybe it's just me but I could not recommend a behringer product. Sure the prices might be sweet, but they also don't build quality products if you ask me.

I'd personally look into a Yamaha digital mixer.

-maz


i am co-signing for behringer....they have some nice products.....come on...think about what you are saying....this company actually built a replica Mackie board and got sued...so you think they can't make banging product?
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By aaron Tue Jan 27, 2004 11:17 pm
thanks for the help

whats the best model to go with? right now it looks like my budget jumped from 250 to 1,000.

so any suggestions?
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By djadonis206 Wed Jan 28, 2004 5:20 pm
Look into a Mackie 1642 vlz - it's sturdy, sounds awesome and you'll have a ton of routing options at the end of the day - Better yet, get yourself a computer audio interface, like a MOTU or Digi002 and go digital - latency really isn't an issue any more so it almost make more sence...

But my recommendation is the Mackie 1642 VLZ if your looking for something outboard - I use mine to hook up all my outboard stuff, my turntables, etc...
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By elmacaco Wed Jan 28, 2004 5:29 pm
I had the 1642 for a while. It's good, but you only actually get 12 inputs since 4 are stereo.

Better get the 1604 or something bigger.
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By djadonis206 Wed Jan 28, 2004 5:50 pm
elmacaco wrote:I had the 1642 for a while. It's good, but you only actually get 12 inputs since 4 are stereo.

Better get the 1604 or something bigger.


true!

By funky-74 Wed Jan 28, 2004 6:18 pm
I have a 24-8bus desk from Mackie. It is okay for what i payed it but it has a little too much hiss in my opinion.
I recently worked with the replica from Behringer at a friends studio and that one did not had more hiss than mine. The only thing that was not so nice was the Eq-shelving and the quality of the mic preamps on it. But if you have an external micpreamp you don't need those anyway.
Your budget gone up to 1000$ you say? Get a secondhand yamaha 01V. They go cheaper now with the new 96Khz version and they are much quiter then an analog desk. You will have faster and "more proffesional sounding mixes" on those.
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By aaron Thu Jan 29, 2004 12:33 am
thanks for the replies fellas.

i'm kind of in a rock and a hard place.
as im just starting this voyage as a producer.

im taking this 1,000 $ loan from my mother (thank god for her support on my musical dreams). i am 16 and im probably going to have to get a job relativly soon..

I have a low collection of vinyl, as i dont know of many record shops in the connecticut area. so somtimes i buy some 45's online or wherever i can get them.



i guess my question is.. is it completly nessecary to buy a mixer+8 outs when I haven't elevated to the extent where i need to give my tracks a full mixdown?

should i just use the 1,000 on the vinyl and maybe invest in a triton in the future or what?

sorry to bring this thread off topic, but as i said im in quite the predicament

peace
By 52ftBuddha Thu Jan 29, 2004 8:55 pm
I will start by saying that I am not big on mixers, they were a necessity at one point and are now little more than an anachronism. I still use them, but mostly it is for taking line level signals from a large number of synthesizers and being able to buss them to a D/A converter, or for midi playback purposes. If my studio was bringing in more money I would have every line level signal I own with its own D/A converter like some of my more successful friends. Most of the people I work with do not use a mixer at all, signals go straight to a pro tools IO and some thing like a D8 or mackie Control or Pro Control gives real time access to signal levels etc in software. For better input control and mic pre’s, in my humble studio I use dedicated recording channels of my own or what I can borrow rent etc. I think DAW’s offer far greater control of mixing than can be achieved with an analog mixer. Get a decent computer DAW with some good deal software. I think Cakewalk has the most for the money, decent signal tools and some soft synths. No I am not plugging Sonar I use SX but I think it is a bargain compared to buying a Mac and running Logic or doing the Steinberg thing. SX gives you nothing in the way of usable processing software, so you have to pony up more cash for plug ins. Finally spend real money on speakers, no more than 2 ways unless you are having a room built by an audio engineer with diffusion and absorption taken into account. Low freq standing waves will mess with any good mix you try for. Watch out for people with thousands of dollars in equipment playing through $300 speakers. Why NS10M’s the lurkers ask, readying up another flame load. For the same reason we used to have a single auratone in the middle of the console (mono crap reproduction) we wanted to be able to imitate the shite stereo most people had at home during the 70’s. Triton……… have you ever tried to cut something with a Swiss army knife. Not bad but never enough, the problem with one trick ponies. Yes most people have one because clients find it familiar, I never found familiar exciting. Give me a moog modular, or something made by waldorf any day. Wow I ran on a bit. :idea: