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By solah Thu May 11, 2006 1:08 am
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solah wrote:40 bucks for a crappy e-book? What is the world comming too. If it was availible on a hard or paper back format then i would understand, but for an e-book? thats ridiculas. Imma make tutorials and give em out for FREE!!!!!!!!!!!!!


You know, I really resent that kind of throw away, moronic comment about my work. Tonight I was on a high celebrating the fact that I'd finally published this book after 12 months hard work creating it (and having to effectively spend the past few months rewriting it when OS 2.1 came out). And in the last three months, I've spent every waking hour finishing off this book only for you to come along and completely trash all that hard work in one mindless forum post.

I really cannot express the hurt and depression I feel when a member of my own forums would try to hurt me like that and call all my hard work 'crappy' without a second thought



Yes i am aware that you worked hard and put alot into your work, but im sure that it is equaly frustrating for those of us that cant buy the book for 40 dollors. Some of us cant afford it because some of us have some other money issues. Ya see? And by crappy i meant it as a figure of speech out of frustration. But it is priced over what people or I should think it should be priced. 20 dollors seems more resonable, even though its cheaper i would still think MORE people would by it. Piece
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By DJ-T Thu May 11, 2006 1:19 am
MPC-Tutor wrote:
Mr modnaR wrote:tutor's hand looks like the hand of the chat room pervert.


I don't have the time to be a pervert :)

Okay that's 3 request for a new avatar in the past week or so, maybe I'll change it...


Try a human like face as a tutor with a stick teaching the students at Oxford :lol: .

But seriously, I've bought the E-book(XL) and is considering buying the 1k ebook, I think that you have to network as a business owner as well especially deally with customers who spend alot of time in here chating sharing knowledege with one another, and refering others from all over the world. For instances, guys at GuitarCenter come to me about info on the MPC,Heck I can't even count how many hundreds of people I've sent here (MPC-Tutor) not saying that I know everything,but I do have 20yrs experience with the MPC series (RogerLinn's 9000) till now,And I still refer them to where??? MPC-Tutor.com . I been doing that Tutor since before you where working on the this site from another MPC forum, If you remember?. But my point is, try to give rebate's or discounts to your true followers who promote and help you to make lots of money in here. I know, i do, I've purchased plenty of Samples in here to support your business. Check your records. I'm not saying give stuff away for free, But make this site exciting for more people to come and feel at home,just like Walmart if you know what I mean. I not saying let people run over you to get hand outs. NETWORK ,NETWORK,NETWORK!!!!!!!! 8)

PS : Tutor please don't take this personal,You know I support this site.
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By j.m Thu May 11, 2006 3:25 am
solah wrote:
MPC-Tutor wrote:
solah wrote:40 bucks for a crappy e-book? What is the world comming too. If it was availible on a hard or paper back format then i would understand, but for an e-book? thats ridiculas. Imma make tutorials and give em out for FREE!!!!!!!!!!!!!


You know, I really resent that kind of throw away, moronic comment about my work. Tonight I was on a high celebrating the fact that I'd finally published this book after 12 months hard work creating it (and having to effectively spend the past few months rewriting it when OS 2.1 came out). And in the last three months, I've spent every waking hour finishing off this book only for you to come along and completely trash all that hard work in one mindless forum post.

I really cannot express the hurt and depression I feel when a member of my own forums would try to hurt me like that and call all my hard work 'crappy' without a second thought



Yes i am aware that you worked hard and put alot into your work, but im sure that it is equaly frustrating for those of us that cant buy the book for 40 dollors. Some of us cant afford it because some of us have some other money issues. Ya see? And by crappy i meant it as a figure of speech out of frustration. But it is priced over what people or I should think it should be priced. 20 dollors seems more resonable, even though its cheaper i would still think MORE people would by it. Piece


your argument is somewhat odd.

if a porsche would cost half of it's price - I'm pretty sure that they would sell a lot more, too.

But what is "a lot more"? It's subjective - depending on the market.

I think the question for tutor is - is it worth it?
Would it really attract hundreds and thousands additional users to buy the product?

If he cuts the price in half - he has to get twice as much users to purchase it to break even.

I'm not sure if that would happen.

Furthermore (which happens to sound a bit paradox) you say that you think it's overpriced - in which case you have the option to not buy it.

But then again you say it's because you don't have that amount of money to spend on the product - which leaves the impression that you would like to have the product, but don't want to pay the price.

In this case you always have the option to save up some money until you can afford it.

I guess you would never go to the next best musical gear dealer in town and suggest him to cut the price on the mpc down because you have money issues - but still would like to buy that piece.
I would really like to see the expression on his face when you ask him that. :wink:

cheers
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By solah Thu May 11, 2006 4:52 am
j.m wrote:
solah wrote:
MPC-Tutor wrote:
solah wrote:40 bucks for a crappy e-book? What is the world comming too. If it was availible on a hard or paper back format then i would understand, but for an e-book? thats ridiculas. Imma make tutorials and give em out for FREE!!!!!!!!!!!!!


You know, I really resent that kind of throw away, moronic comment about my work. Tonight I was on a high celebrating the fact that I'd finally published this book after 12 months hard work creating it (and having to effectively spend the past few months rewriting it when OS 2.1 came out). And in the last three months, I've spent every waking hour finishing off this book only for you to come along and completely trash all that hard work in one mindless forum post.

I really cannot express the hurt and depression I feel when a member of my own forums would try to hurt me like that and call all my hard work 'crappy' without a second thought



Yes i am aware that you worked hard and put alot into your work, but im sure that it is equaly frustrating for those of us that cant buy the book for 40 dollors. Some of us cant afford it because some of us have some other money issues. Ya see? And by crappy i meant it as a figure of speech out of frustration. But it is priced over what people or I should think it should be priced. 20 dollors seems more resonable, even though its cheaper i would still think MORE people would by it. Piece


your argument is somewhat odd.

if a porsche would cost half of it's price - I'm pretty sure that they would sell a lot more, too.

But what is "a lot more"? It's subjective - depending on the market.

I think the question for tutor is - is it worth it?
Would it really attract hundreds and thousands additional users to buy the product?

If he cuts the price in half - he has to get twice as much users to purchase it to break even.

I'm not sure if that would happen.

Furthermore (which happens to sound a bit paradox) you say that you think it's overpriced - in which case you have the option to not buy it.

But then again you say it's because you don't have that amount of money to spend on the product - which leaves the impression that you would like to have the product, but don't want to pay the price.

In this case you always have the option to save up some money until you can afford it.

I guess you would never go to the next best musical gear dealer in town and suggest him to cut the price on the mpc down because you have money issues - but still would like to buy that piece.
I would really like to see the expression on his face when you ask him that. :wink:

cheers


but i forgot my argument was the deal being an e-book, a paper back book could be worth it but and e-book not for me, plus i like having the hardback copy to take around to read anywhere and learn, ya know? If i had a laptop, then it would be a great buy.
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By Mr modnaR Thu May 11, 2006 6:45 am
put it this way: there's going to be a lot of people on here that will be using 'BTFeB' instead of 'RTFM' as a defence against the onslaught of inane questions like 'how do i hit a pad?' [/elitist rant].
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By MPC-Tutor Thu May 11, 2006 7:16 am
To take some of the points discussed:

a paper back book could be worth it


I would just like to point out the realities of having this book in 'paper' format.

First off, I'm in the UK, so shipping to the US (85% of my customers) for a 262 page, A4 bound book would cost in the region of $40-$50 alone.

Next there's actual printing costs. I'm not a publisher, I have no book deal, so I would have to self-publish the book. In book terms, it would be a very limited run (i.e. niche market). It would also have to include color photos on around 40% of all pages. Do you have any idea how much that would cost to print up for an independant self-publisher? Have a look at cafepress for a better idea.

In reality, to provide this book in paper format with shipping, priniting, admin, credit card fees and a small profit, we would be talking over $120.

But my point is, try to give rebate's or discounts to your true followers


Thing is, I do appreciate my existing customers. Every single newsletter that gets sent out includes at least 2 special customer-only deals ranging from 25-50% off various products. I also have various ideas in the works for the future. But as stated before, I do feel that the MPC ebooks are already discounted as far as I'm willing (and is practical) to go (see below)

But it is priced over what people or I should think it should be priced. 20 dollors seems more resonable, even though its cheaper i would still think MORE people would by it.


when I first released the XL book, it retailed at $89.99 (and it sold pretty well). So the book is half price, and some. Asking me to discount it greater is asking too much. I can't please everyone - if I sold it for $20, you can bet there would be a thread started bitching about how it should be $10. I appreciate that you personally feel $40 is too much, but sales history of the XL book has shown that you are in the minority and most people understand that $40 is a fair price for the wealth of high quality content inside. In fact 90% of the sales last night were referred to from this thread.

Once again I point that I can go over to a certain competitor and get 720 sounds for $79.99. For half that price, by buying the book you get the same number of sounds plus you get a 250 page book with 51 tutorials. There simply is no comparison. When you buy anything in digital format - sounds, software etc, you are buying the quality and work inside. I'm not dissing my competition here, I'm sure their sounds are worth the money - just underlining the state of the market and the pricing levels - and in relation to that market, my MPC ebooks are completely under priced.

In fact I'd like to get past the 700 samples issue, because I feel that the $40 is a great deal just for the text in the book alone - the sounds are just an added bonus. Yes I'm biased, but have you ever wondered why none of my competition has ever come out with a rival ebook? It's because they take so damn long to create and cannot be knocked up in a few days like some of these DVDs I've seen that barely scratch the surface of what is possible with the MPC. There's very little profit margin in a product like this, due to the many months it takes to create.
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By rabulisten Thu May 11, 2006 12:02 pm
i dont think 4o $ is too steep. Lot of workmanship and hours of writing seems to have gone in to this book. And with the added bonus of sounds its a great deal. I am more intrested in knowing more about the samples pgms etc. though. It would be nice to get more info about the samples. cheers
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By MPC-Tutor Thu May 11, 2006 12:08 pm
rabulisten wrote:i dont think 4o $ is too steep. Lot of workmanship and hours of writing seems to have gone in to this book. And with the added bonus of sounds its a great deal. I am more intrested in knowing more about the samples pgms etc. though. It would be nice to get more info about the samples. cheers


The samples are all used throughout the book as part of each tutorial. So, the first step of the tutorial may be to load up a chopped drum program and a project file with sequences etc. Then you go through the tutorial, usually to recreate what I did with that program. You'll find breaks, single hits, chops, multisamples, loops, drones, etc - basically anything required for each tutorial.

As mentioned before, the sounds that come along are effectively just a bonus to the actual text content of the book - not only do they help explain everything discussed in the book, they can also be used in their own right.
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By DJ-T Thu May 11, 2006 1:32 pm
Like I said I support what your doing for these youngster. I'm getting the E-book in a minute. :lol:
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By rabulisten Thu May 11, 2006 1:49 pm
cheers tutor. thats good to know.it make sense to have the samples without them it would have been harder to learn everything. Like trying to get a drivers license with just a book and without ever getting in a car. ill probably get the book in a couple of weeks.
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By campbellmontgomery Thu May 11, 2006 4:18 pm
I purchased the 1000 Ebook yesterday and think it is great.
it contains a lot of info and is a good product.Well worth the money.
Thanks very much :D
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By Cap_Ill Thu May 11, 2006 4:25 pm
i want this. if you purchase it do you have to download it right away? or is it always available to you online?
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By Mr modnaR Thu May 11, 2006 4:38 pm
it's always available to you. you have an account of sorts, which stores what you have downloaded, so, if you lose your eBook, you simply log on, and re-download. great stuff.
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By MPC-Tutor Thu May 11, 2006 4:47 pm
Cap_Ill wrote:i want this. if you purchase it do you have to download it right away? or is it always available to you online?


When you check out you create an account and this gives you access to the file whenever you need it - all your digital purchases are stored in this personal 'file bank'. We also send an email out with copies of your download link.
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By P.O.L.O. Thu May 11, 2006 5:08 pm
Good job Tutor, I purchased the book and your hard work is evident. The tutorial is very detailed. Thanks I'm just getting into it.