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By angryman Mon May 22, 2006 1:24 am
I was wondering if you crate diggers pay for your samples if you're a serious producer. I mean, do you even write down the artist and title that u sample down? Do u keep track of all of ur samples? How much do producers usually pay for a sample? I kno it's varys but how much
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By dj e.d.e Mon May 22, 2006 4:34 am
I HAVENT GOT ANYONE TO REALLY BUY MY BEATS....... but i tell you if i did sell........... i would have the person buyin it pay for it.

but i do keep track of some artist i sample.......... i usually name my sampleS with the arist name like BJmard01
or some shlt like that

that way i know it's BOB James...... madri' gra...... my first sample
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By PennyDimes Mon May 22, 2006 1:48 pm
Good question. I basically write down all the songs i sample from record into a book- then from ther i write down all the loops ive chopped from that song and wat ive re-named it so i can go back anytime and find it. for example, if i was to sample Marvin Gaye - Sexual Healing. i jus scribble in...

Marvin Gaye - Sexual Healing
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Sexual 1a
Sexual 1b
Sexual 1c
Sexual 1d

then i know wat i got to play with, and ther is a record for wat im sampling just in case i need those credits. thats jus my style anyway, im sure thers a million otehr ways to do it, but keep yourself organized. cos it sucks when you cant find shit on my computer
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By JUKE 179r Mon May 22, 2006 2:53 pm
^^^ thats what I do it too.
I lable them like this: Marvin Gaye - Sexual Healing = mgsxhl1
It just reminds me where I got the sample from.
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By issues Mon May 22, 2006 3:48 pm
mnh2410 wrote:The majority leave it up to the artist/company who buys the beat and most producers on here dont do it but the ones who do will tell u.

true

as a producer, it aint ur job to get the samples cleared...but you do have to tell them where u got it from...

i name my folders after the artist, the program of something that reminds me of the the song/artist, and the .all file is named after the song, or at least as much of the song that i can get.

when i record my beats, or track them out, i name the file after the song that i sampled. because they are mp3s, i can name the beat using id3 tags, and keep the filename following the name of the song i sampled

i'm gonna go through one of these days and make a file on my computer of every song that i sampled..it'll probably take a couple of weeks, maybe even a month

one more thing:
write down the info on the back of the record when you are sampling. sometimes you might sample a cover version of the song, or a re-done recording.

becuase you need a master recording liscence, it doesnt matter who wrote the song originally...and you might end up getting that confused when you sample something that isnt the original recording...

becareful about that...

and ALWAYS get ur samples cleared if you are putting them out on the radio or something--if not, the responsibility is on the label.

eddie blackmon made the analogy
sampling without clearance is just like plagiarising for a paper...you need to give the original artist(s) credit

peace
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By loh90 Mon May 22, 2006 8:14 pm
issues wrote:
mnh2410 wrote:The majority leave it up to the artist/company who buys the beat and most producers on here dont do it but the ones who do will tell u.

true

as a producer, it aint ur job to get the samples cleared...but you do have to tell them where u got it from...

i name my folders after the artist, the program of something that reminds me of the the song/artist, and the .all file is named after the song, or at least as much of the song that i can get.

when i record my beats, or track them out, i name the file after the song that i sampled. because they are mp3s, i can name the beat using id3 tags, and keep the filename following the name of the song i sampled

i'm gonna go through one of these days and make a file on my computer of every song that i sampled..it'll probably take a couple of weeks, maybe even a month

one more thing:
write down the info on the back of the record when you are sampling. sometimes you might sample a cover version of the song, or a re-done recording.

becuase you need a master recording liscence, it doesnt matter who wrote the song originally...and you might end up getting that confused when you sample something that isnt the original recording...

becareful about that...

and ALWAYS get ur samples cleared if you are putting them out on the radio or something--if not, the responsibility is on the label.

eddie blackmon made the analogy
sampling without clearance is just like plagiarising for a paper...you need to give the original artist(s) credit

peace


correct me if im wrong, but i believe that it IS a job as a PRODUCER to get sample rights cleared. most of us here are BEAT ENGINEERS. beat engineers are not responsible for sample clearance, but a producer basically makes the track from begining to end. of course ultimately, most likely a lawyer will get the sample cleared for you, but as a producer, it is your job to get it to the lawyer and make sure it follows through.

this is my impression of how it works, but i'm not positive so dont quote me on it.
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By Definition Mon May 22, 2006 8:45 pm
It obviously depends on what you stipulate, but in essence its the job of the label to whom you sell your beats to clear the sample if they want to release it.
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By mpc4000xl Mon May 22, 2006 9:34 pm
Definition wrote:It obviously depends on what you stipulate, but in essence its the job of the label to whom you sell your beats to clear the sample if they want to release it.






Truth is For me..................

I RARELY USE LONG OR UNALTERED SAMPLES................

So I Don't Clear.............................


But I ALWAYS KEEP TRACK on ARTIST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



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By angryman Tue May 23, 2006 4:59 am
thanks for everybody's points
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By issues Tue May 23, 2006 5:09 am
loh90 wrote:correct me if im wrong, but i believe that it IS a job as a PRODUCER to get sample rights cleared. most of us here are BEAT ENGINEERS. beat engineers are not responsible for sample clearance, but a producer basically makes the track from begining to end. of course ultimately, most likely a lawyer will get the sample cleared for you, but as a producer, it is your job to get it to the lawyer and make sure it follows through.

this is my impression of how it works, but i'm not positive so dont quote me on it.


okay, you arent totally wrong...

yes, we do see the track all the way through...but as artists/producers, we do not have time to worry about the clearance aspect of sampling. we get the rite people to handle it, and if anything goes awry, we find somebody to replay it or something.

i totally understand what you are saying, but when you get to that level, there are people to handle that for you, so you can continue to work without the potential headache of sample clearance.

peace

By Otayo20 Tue May 23, 2006 7:45 pm
The way things are now we all play multiple roles. But it's basically the responsiblity of the person who is putting the project out. To what degree is this song gonna be pushed? The song or album has to make enuff money for anybody to give a ****. If you selling less than 10,000 units, and it's not like obvious sample, like Bob James or Marvin Gaye or somethin, it's probally not gonna matter. What they can do is seist and assist wich means you must take the item off the shelf. I heard a rumour that Stones Throw has never cleared a sample before, and they sell alot of records. :?
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By dj e.d.e Tue May 23, 2006 8:32 pm
Otayo20 wrote:The way things are now we all play multiple roles. But it's basically the responsiblity of the person who is putting the project out. To what degree is this song gonna be pushed? The song or album has to make enuff money for anybody to give a ****. If you selling less than 10,000 units, and it's not like obvious sample, like Bob James or Marvin Gaye or somethin, it's probally not gonna matter. What they can do is seist and assist wich means you must take the item off the shelf. I heard a rumour that Stones Throw has never cleared a sample before, and they sell alot of records. :?
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