Post your views and questions about the Akai MPC2500
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By Jkizzla Tue May 23, 2006 1:48 pm
Iv been usin my MPC 2500 for about 6 months and i think iv got to know it pretty dam well. iv made quite a few tunes which ill record before I sell if I sell. I wanted some peoples advice, I enjoy using the MPC2500 iv got extra ram and 40gb hard drive in it aswell but If I sell then I can make enough to buy my self a mac. I have A nice firewire saffire by focusrite its just it works really badly with my bad pc.If I got the mac to do my music Id probably get the akai MPD16 set of 16 pads if it works well with logic which I don't no. Basically I was just wonderin what you think is better for makin music. MPC2500 or mac? thanks

By Ajax Tue May 23, 2006 1:57 pm
Judging as you're on an MPC 2500 baord I'd guess your replies will be mostly negative...


and here's the first one... LOL. Naw, but I don't see much of the point of learning a machine for only 6 months... making a couple tunes... then selling it to buy another machine that you'll need to re-learn.


I mean... is there something about the 2500 that you don't like?




ronJ
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By Jkizzla Tue May 23, 2006 2:05 pm
yeh i see what u mean, but the mpc wasnt hard to learn an nor is logic on the mac. plus I wanna get more of a live sound and i have a lot of mates who use logic an seems jus as quick an easy as the mpc but just more features

By Ajax Tue May 23, 2006 3:11 pm
You can always combine the mpc with computer applications.. and try to get the most out of all of them.


Thing is... if you sell your 2500... its like selling a car... once you drive it off the lot, its automatically lost a ton of value... so, you'd be selling at a discount something that could be the centerpiece of your set up...


Id reconsider and hold onto the 2500... in the meanwhile, save money to go the mac route.. you might find in the interim that you really do enjoy the mpc...


I dont know though. Ive never actually used Logic, so it may be gods gift to beatmaking... i can only speak on my experience with the MPC.





ronJ
By pb-sh Tue May 23, 2006 3:41 pm
Jkizzla wrote:Iv been usin my MPC 2500 for about 6 months and i think iv got to know it pretty dam well. iv made quite a few tunes which ill record before I sell if I sell. I wanted some peoples advice, I enjoy using the MPC2500 iv got extra ram and 40gb hard drive in it aswell but If I sell then I can make enough to buy my self a mac. I have A nice firewire saffire by focusrite its just it works really badly with my bad pc.If I got the mac to do my music Id probably get the akai MPD16 set of 16 pads if it works well with logic which I don't no. Basically I was just wonderin what you think is better for makin music. MPC2500 or mac? thanks


I use both (MPC2500 + Logic/Mac).

FWIW the old chestnut is it's not what you use it's how you use it... 8)
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By jahrome Tue May 23, 2006 4:04 pm
You can use any software based DAW in place of an MPC. But...I also prefer to use a combo of the two. MPC for drums, loops, and sequencing keyboards and then dump them into Logic for recording/mixing..and recording live instruments or additional MIDI instruments....
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By flu1512 Tue May 23, 2006 11:51 pm
I use logic 7 and one thing I can say for sure, is the imported audio manipulation is horrible.

first, I came from acid pro, where once you set the tempo of the audio file you're importing. you can just change the tempo or the pitch and the audio changes like that.
it was instant, similar to how abelton live handles audio.

with logic, lets say you want that sped up vocal sound, you have to open it in the pitch time machine, then it resamples and pastes it back into the sequence.
then if you don't like the result, and you want to change the tempo, you have to stop, do it again then you can play it back.

some people say, if you change the loop into an "apple loop" then it automatically changes with the tempo, but alot of times my audio clips are too long to be converted into an apple loop.

I'm hoping that the acid or abelton live style audio manipulation makes its way into logic soon, but i'm not holding my breath

By Jenre Wed May 24, 2006 12:33 am
You're in London, right?

If you do sell it, make sure you let me know!

By boomspot Wed May 24, 2006 2:17 am
flu1512 wrote:I use logic 7 and one thing I can say for sure, is the imported audio manipulation is horrible.

first, I came from acid pro, where once you set the tempo of the audio file you're importing. you can just change the tempo or the pitch and the audio changes like that.
it was instant, similar to how abelton live handles audio.

with logic, lets say you want that sped up vocal sound, you have to open it in the pitch time machine, then it resamples and pastes it back into the sequence.
then if you don't like the result, and you want to change the tempo, you have to stop, do it again then you can play it back.

some people say, if you change the loop into an "apple loop" then it automatically changes with the tempo, but alot of times my audio clips are too long to be converted into an apple loop.

I'm hoping that the acid or abelton live style audio manipulation makes its way into logic soon, but i'm not holding my breath


You can always use a 3rd party like phatmatik. it's pretty sweet how it chops samples and lets you tweak filters, pitch, loop points and a ton of other stuff. You can have diff settings for every single chopped piece which is sick. Like 64 choppped pieces with a diff pitch, eq and reverb level on each. If you get logic you NEED to get this app.

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By Jkizzla Wed May 24, 2006 8:27 am
Ok thanks a lot guys I really appreciate the advice, an yeh jene in bristol Im in London so ill give u a shout if I decide to sell....
thanks

By Matt_J Wed May 24, 2006 8:57 am
before i got my 2500, i was using cubase & MPD16..... If you like the hands-on feel of your MPC you will find the above combination takes longer & more mousing around then a 2500!

my 2cent

By Matt_J Wed May 24, 2006 9:00 am
having said that, i like to use the two in conjunction, like jahrome said, make the meat & potatoes in the 2500 then track into cubase logic for arranging/further layering & mixing
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By Spirez Wed May 24, 2006 11:08 am
I went the opposite way to you, started out on Cubase and Reason first but i was getting really uninspired clicking a mouse and staring at a computer screen all day, especially after getting back from work.

Picked up the MPC and a Proteus and i wont be looking back any time soon. No doubt a computer has more features but i suppose it's just down to how you want to work.

I'm going to use a computer to track out my music though, that's defintely the way forward as far as recording is concerned.

I'd keep the MPC, be patient and save for the mac

So basically, i think you cant beat a combination of the two 8)

By Anabolic Wed May 24, 2006 8:19 pm
horrible idea to get a mac and sell an mpc, Now a good idea is to use the 2500 and get a mac
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By King_Vitamin Thu May 25, 2006 7:03 am
Another really creative way of using your mpc is as a hardware sequencer triggering battery or somthing similar and essentially bypassing the sampler. This keeps your sample editing and fx processing options open while composing and, assuming yourl atency's looking good, retains the mpc's solid timing. Odviously this also lets you bypass a/d d/a passes as well.

PM me if you have any questions on how to set this up.