swing and triplets

I think it's also important to keep tempo in mind. I find that quantized drums sound boring when used on slower beats. If you are going to quantize on slow jams, maybe you should try pushing or pulling some of the drums a little as Descartes suggested.

Remedial wrote:I won't lie, I stopped using timing after I felt that my drum tracks didn't sound the way I played.

So, what exactly does timing/quantization do for me?

Exactly what you just said... makes your beats intime on the note!!!!

Remedial wrote:What's the best setting for setting your sample, drums, etc if you want it to have a natural feel but also have it correct something if it's a little off.?

You answerd your own question... turn of quantise... play tighter.... otherwise get an more advanced sequencer!

Remedial wrote: And, in a sequence, can I using timing on one track and not the rest? Same thing for swing??

Yes.... Read the Manual

Remedial wrote:Also, what's the deal with triplets?

Didn't you just read the posts in this thread? I suggest you read again!

The way you chop your drum hits has alot to do with the perceived swing, nobody mentioned that....

But this shit aint rocket science, if you want some swing, put every track on 56% and add a shift of 1....holy shit!!!! swing.

you know that doveski- woking out swing is as easy as hitting 'open window' and using the alpha dial....instead of RTFM it should be UYFM (use your mpc)....

do you tend to shift you swung notes forward or backwards...if im swinging i only tend to shift the notes which are on the beat and normally forward by a tick so it hits earlier....nice slippery madness...

greg

Amen dubmonk!!!
UYFMP!!! hahaha....thats the new term.

but really on swing and shift, i just play with it differently on every song, ill tell you this though i started using a lot of "no timing," use 2 or 3 hi hats (one up one down) I always shift my snares 1 or 2 forward ahead of the kicks (keeps the pace moving), layer a clap or snap on top manually and play with the attack and decay on those, I never leave anything on 50%, the lowest I'll go is 54%, I put a low (i mean really low - almost not there) sub bass in the open spaces and a good mixing board is your best friend.

peeeeezzzz.

yup me too- in fact have found three swing settings which suit the style of slippery house i do...ill sometimes shift certain notes by different amounts for each bar..spesh bongos and that....

but no timing works really well as long as you have one element reinforcing the tempo....

greg

oh and ive done that fatboy trick filling the spaces but never with subs....hhhmmm (plots idea in head).........

one last thing i use different settings if i want the bass line to move around the beat..not wildely different of course only a few %

greg

Madness wrote:

Remedial wrote:I won't lie, I stopped using timing after I felt that my drum tracks didn't sound the way I played.

So, what exactly does timing/quantization do for me?

Exactly what you just said... makes your beats intime on the note!!!!

Remedial wrote:What's the best setting for setting your sample, drums, etc if you want it to have a natural feel but also have it correct something if it's a little off.?

You answerd your own question... turn of quantise... play tighter.... otherwise get an more advanced sequencer!

Remedial wrote: And, in a sequence, can I using timing on one track and not the rest? Same thing for swing??

Yes.... Read the Manual

Remedial wrote:Also, what's the deal with triplets?

Didn't you just read the posts in this thread? I suggest you read again!

No need to get derogatory with the replies, homie. Must of the stuff I asked I tried looking for in the manual but didn't really find any explanation (esp. the use of swing). Maybe I didn't try hard enough, true.

And on you comment asking if I read any of the posts in this thread, two people discussing something that the both know about is a totally different discussion that one person who knows explaining it to someone who doesn't. Glean what you can from that.

Every genius had to learn from someone or something (books, etc.).

Unless of course there was divine intervention

Peace.

Yo REMEDIAL, I thought it was expressed in pretty straight english...!!!

but I will say it again:

A FULLY SWUNG BEAT (ie; Swing = 100%) IS THE SAME THING AS A TRIPLET PATTERN. I would also like to add that the manual makes it pretty clear how to add swing to each track. You might also find many other topics on this!

Here is what I might do...

I have a 4 bar drum pattern which is quantised (plus a 54% swing on the HHats). However at the end of the 4th bar I have a 1/4 of the bar, which needs to leave the beat and play STACATO (excuse the spelling) which means it accents the melody and rhythm off the beat and doesn't want to be quantised. So I cut those notes out of that phrase then add a new track with quantise off and play that pattern for just those few drum hits. I have to play that over and over untill they hit just where I want them.

If you had a more advanced sequencer like CUBASE you could load up different "QUANTISE maps" or "GROOVE TEMPLATES" that would emulate this kind of thing and correct sligtly off notes etc., and you have many more settings you could use as it is very advanced in the MIDI department.

Madness wrote:Yo REMEDIAL, I thought it was expressed in pretty straight english...!!!

but I will say it again:

A FULLY SWUNG BEAT (ie; Swing = 100%) IS THE SAME THING AS A TRIPLET PATTERN. I would also like to add that the manual makes it pretty clear how to add swing to each track. You might also find many other topics on this!

Here is what I might do...

I have a 4 bar drum pattern which is quantised (plus a 54% swing on the HHats). However at the end of the 4th bar I have a 1/4 of the bar, which needs to leave the beat and play STACATO (excuse the spelling) which means it accents the melody and rhythm off the beat and doesn't want to be quantised. So I cut those notes out of that phrase then add a new track with quantise off and play that pattern for just those few drum hits. I have to play that over and over untill they hit just where I want them.

If you had a more advanced sequencer like CUBASE you could load up different "QUANTISE maps" or "GROOVE TEMPLATES" that would emulate this kind of thing and correct sligtly off notes etc., and you have many more settings you could use as it is very advanced in the MIDI department.

Well, I meant no malice. I just didn't get the gist of it and didn't appreciate someone talking to me condescendingly because I didn't. If that was not your intent, then no offense taken.

And this explanation did a do a lot more for clarification.

And I will take your suggestion and reread the manual.