2500 vs. 4000

It's not as easy to operate. Give yourself a month with the unit and the manual, before you regret it. If you can't operate the 4000 then you can't operate the 2500 or 1000.

There are more options out there than just mpc's. Perhaps it's not the 4000 you're not feeling, but maybe you're just not a mpc head. Just cuz its the industry standard doesn't mean its the best, or for everyone.

inca music wrote:i havent.....why you ask?....i know i shouldve started on something older/smaller...whatever.i guess thats why im having a hard time with it....ive been told to move down to the 2500....and that i would love it....so help me out people...

4K definately has a steep learning curve. When I got mine in '02, I was lost trying to do anything beyond simple programing. By studing the reference manual and the operators manual and picking up loads of valuable info on this board, I was able to completely unlock this beast in about 24 months of limited use.
Don't expect to master this thing is a few days. It takes alot of dedication to the machine. But in the end, it will pay you back 100x for your effort.
Don't know about the 2500 but there is no software DAW out there that can compare with the 4k.

yo playa imma give you some great advice.. most of these dudes (im not saying all of you) dont give you great advice they just talk mess.. but you should sell the mpc400 because 1:its to big!
2: to complicated!
3:to much buttons!!
4:to expensive!!
5:to many things to remeber!!
6:waste of time and money!!

buy the mpc2500 beacause
1:not as heavy!
2:les expensive
3:not much to remeber!
4:great for producing!
5:user friendly
6:good use of time and money..
7:shyt it sounds great!

Dude, just keep messing with it, I would give my teeth to get a 4000, if you get a 2500 the same thing will happen to you, just keep at it... If I can flip a Organzied Noize, and Munich (The Movie) Sample, and make a Jazzy Hip Hop beat on FL Studio 5 DEMO!!! You can make a decent beat on a MPC.

A homie of mine copped a 4k not know a damn thing bout beat making..shure enuff he was as lost as the thread starter...

So i own a xl mcd and a 1k...here i am thinking..4k, no prob...i go on turn on the machine...my mouth dropped....WOW! It took me a couel of hours, but after the headaches of locating the permeters i needed, it was smooth sailing...

I would trade my 1k and xl for that machine man...24 bit/si mult/great pads...the best of all worlds...keep it, learn it....love it

I'm sure you did'nt go about it this way when computers first hit the horizon "the learning curve of this 80386 IBM is too steep, I think I'm gonna settle for something a little less like an Atari Commodore64". That's how I see it when folks complain about this learning curve thing. Nothing comes easy. If Akai made the 4k very easy to use, it would'nt have come packed with all of the nifty tools & options it has now. Most of the complaint's are from folks looking for INSTANT gratification and if that's what you're looking for...forget it, it ain't happening. I think most folks never dealt with or even seen a PC until gear manufacturers started making their products with the capability of interfacing with certain programs or software. It would'nt make sense to downgrade from the 4k just to eventually find out it was'nt much of a hassle to learn in the first place.

Man I just bought an Mpc 4000 and didn't know about the features of the 2500 rec input to a track, which isn't on the website, chop shop, and patch phrase what ever but in the end I decided to stick with the 4000 mainly because of the ram, I still get the same style input recording feature it's just not as easy to setup, and the chop shop shop crap I can do via computer (recycle) which is quicker and just send the file over usb,I see alot of jumping ship with these mpc's but it's not about the mpc's it's the producer besides if you used the rec input featues in the 2500 with 128 mg of ram it would get eaten up fairly quickly + the 4000 has 24bit 96khz for sampling quality versus quanty I'm a professional audio engineer/producer and that sample rate means alot not only that but the space to store it does also, just remimber there's no one device does it all instead of switching mpc's maybe buy a computer it's much faster than the 2500 not only that but so is the 4000 at processing files etc.... , one thing I do know is that all of these companies are getting rich off the riff raff that we the consumers create, you ever look at the old O.G cats that have gear they have stuff so dated you almost want to laugh but that's because they've worked a piece of gear and can work every nook and cranny, I'm am a serious Mpc user and know that the 4000 gives me a challenge it gives me room to grow versus me knowing everything about it in which I'm very versued in it still.