How did Alchemist

I have his first infantry CD. We all know his is big sampler thats how he got his name. Most those beats on his album is sampled and he does not give credit in the book. So whats the case with that. Can he be sued or can u make arrangements to get it cleared and just not have them in your credits. He does give credit on the hold u down track but every know thats sampled since Just Blaze used the same sample with Soon you'll understand.

chopped tha shit out of his samples

plus there are guidlines when sampling. There's a book about it. Can't remember what it is right off the top, but you don't have to give credit for everything you sample. If you know those guidlines then you can give credit when credit is due. Other than that, just roll with it.

You guys are funny....even if you chop the hell out of ish there are cats that still know wat u sampled. And cats dont just chop 2 hide a sample they chop 2 make something good/crazy or different from the original recording.

You dont have to clear a sample if you know ur record wont go platinum or gold...there is sumn like as long as u are doin numbers under 100 000 units u are good, but u can still sell more and lie about it! A lot of indie cats dont clear samples because ppl that get sued are mostly major labels.

Some of those beats in alc beat cds or compilations are from previous recordings with major artists so he has already payed for that sample. He is just taking advantage of remixing it and puting it out again.

I hope nobodybelieves this.How are you gonna determine what your record sales are gonna be ,and who makes an album and just wants it to go gold not platinum? A sample is a sample no matter how small or large.If someone wants to sue over a sample from a half a second they can . http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sampling_(music)#Modern_sampling

Yo m not sayn dats the law but cat sample and sell shit from the trunk and indie record stores and no1 has the time 2 waste money one lawyer 2 sue some1 doin mixtape numbers ok.

You gonna get sombody hemmed up saying stuff like that.Do a search and see how hard they going after stores selling bootleg mixtaps.You dont have to be rich to get sued.Your nobody until somebody sues you.Now we might feel different cause we sample but a sample is just that a sample.If you got a page on soundclick im sure you know what im sayn.

Tell me dis how many cat sample on soundclick or the net alone and sell the beats with no clearance....ha...alot....how many do it off the net..ha alot.....how many cats cell mixtapes on the street/street corner, hood ass store, indie record store!?alot.....if I was to be sued buy some 1 coz I sampled their track they would loose more maney than they wud ever get out of me paying all their legal fees and lawyers....If ur are doing bootleg number and not on a major no1 if coming after you...unless u an indie dat goes gold and platinum or rise 2 stardom over night.....most dis signed cats only end up clearing a sample 2 a song they dd 2 years ago coz they got picked up by a label.....otherwise dont bother clearing shit now if u know u not at that level or else ul end up broke bra....sample clearance eint a joke. Shit even madlib doesnt have 2 clear samples unless they are on a major scale distribution.

Nem is somewhat correct.
Y'all know the whole Biz Markie story right? He was popular, very popular, and on an indie label, numbers didn't hit gold status niether.

expectations were high for Biz's next album, I Need a Haircut. Sales were already disappointing when Biz was served a lawsuit by Gilbert O'Sullivan, who claimed that the album's "Alone Again" featured an unauthorized sample from his hit "Alone Again (Naturally)." O'Sullivan's claim was upheld in a ruling, Grand Upright Music, Ltd. v. Warner Brothers Records, Inc., that altered the landscape of hip-hop, finding that all samples must be cleared with the original artist before being used. In accordance with the ruling, Warner Bros., the parent company of Cold Chillin', had to pull I Need a Haircut from circulation, and all companies had to clear samples with the samples' creators before releasing the records. This development mirrored the increasing popularity of hip-hop and the financial stakes over which releases were set. Biz responded in 1993 with the mischievously titled "All Samples Cleared!", but his career had been hurt by the publicity emanating from the lawsuit, and the record suffered accordingly.

Clear your stuff

Now everything your'e saying is just your opininon. I dont know how much you thinnk it cost to file a law suite.Most likely you wont get sued because nobody will hear your music.Thats not to say that you cant or wont get sued.Of course I dont think you will get sued every beat you make,but can you ? Yes!! All you have to do is read the copyright laws.Yep people sell beats on soundclick and also what does it say about copyrighted samples.Why do you think they put that out there.You can sit here and say I dont think all day long ,but you know what the real law is.I read some of your other post so I know you know what your saying isnt true.

BB, I think the point is DONT GET CAUGHT! It dont matter if u steal as long as you dont get caught! alchemist knew that that album on KOCH was not gonna catch the wind of those majors. THATS NOT AN OPPINION.. its OBVIOUS! And you CAN predict your record sales! alchemists album only shipped 10K copies when it first dropped. therefore it was impossible to sell gold!

yep. if you are making "the best album nobody will ever hear" you are cool using uncleared samples.

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Look at Madlib that foo uses whole loops on his shit and he don't clear none of his samples and I know for sure. You don't have to clear every sample unless you think it is going to be played all over the radio and it's gonna be a chart topper you ain't got to clear it.

Man, I'm glad you guys aren't lawyers! The reality is that samples should be cleared no matter what, according to the law. And just because it's not listed in the liner notes doesn't mean it hasn't been cleared, the labels want money, not recognition.

There are independant sample clearance companies out there that will do all the legwork and negotiation for you, it's not like you have to call the Winstons direct and ask if you can jack the Amen break.

Just be sensible, and dig deep. You aren't gonna get away with much these days. And I'm sure Madlib doesn't clear his samples. But I bet the label putting out his releases do!

An artist affiliated with my label put out his album with a sample off a pretty pretty well known track. The original artist's family/agent bought a cd off my website and ended up emailing us & asking to take the old man (original artist) on tour. Pretty funny.

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