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By Dominique Wed Jul 26, 2006 12:11 pm
I need some assistance on how to make infinite sustain on my instruments such a horns, violins. I not sure how to do it on the new OS. I went to Trim and messed around with it for a few hours. I know it was hard to do on the old OS but it should be easier since we can zoom in. I then change it to note hold and heard alot of clicks... Do have loop then go to Joint. Any help.


Thanks...

By TennesseePimp865 Wed Jul 26, 2006 2:01 pm
It's pretty tuff to do, especially on the MPC. My only advice, which you may know already, is to find between the middle and end of the sample where the sound "levels" out. Set your loop points in that constant level where the Wave length and width doesn't change for around 5-8 lines, listen, and then adjust accordingly. (Did that make any sense?)

I personnaly have no luck with the MPC as far as doing this. I have tried it with Soundforge but I still suck at it. Anyway that probably didn't help. Good Luck.

By Dominique Wed Jul 26, 2006 10:28 pm
Thanks man. It should be as hard since the New OS has the Zoom feature. U know..
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By ryssen Sun Jul 30, 2006 4:47 pm
The Trim page has been zooming even before OS 3.

I personally don´t find the zooming really that helpful on the MPC 1000, I get the impression that it´s not really showing what´s going on. On a whole I find the looping of samples within the MPC 1000 a bit of a hassle, in my eyes it´s one of it´s biggest weknesses.

In a tight audio editing software I can pretty much edit all by eyes to avoid clicking at the loop points, on my trusted old Akai S2000 there was no graphical representation whatsoever so I had to rely entirely on ears on that one.
I work a lot with ambient textures, drones and pad-like sounds made by sustained samples so I have a lot of experience messing with things to make them smooth and seemless / clickless. When I got my 1000 last year the first thing I noticed was the difficulty to create clean loop points, the reults were mostly unsatisfying whether I relied on graphical editing or my ears, or any possible combinations of the two.
My experience is that the loop points on the MPC 1000 mostly isn´t hitting on the same samples on each pass, like the start- and end point differ a few samples between the passes.
Sort of hard to explain, but you know how the click generated by a bad loop point changes in character the closer it gets to a proper loop point? From a distinct click with a good amount of "thump" it reduces it´s lo freq content and amplitude as start- and end points closes in on each other, just before the click disappears it´s very subtle and void of most low and mid freqs.
When you place start- and end points in a sample on the MPC 1000 and let the sample loop a couple of times you mostly hear fluctuations in the click. First two or three passes it mostly sounds uniform, that is a identical click on each pass. On the third or fourth pass you usually have a change in the character of the click, that is more or less low freqs or change of amplitude of the click. Let the sample roll for a while and there are more or less frequent changes to the charachter of the clicks, something I can find no other explanation to than a somewhat sloppy interpretation to which sample is which thus causing that start- and end points differ from those specified.

It´s really annoying when you find (what you think is) a clean loop point and it plays smooth the first two passes and then starts clicking lightly every second or third pass after that. Is anybody else bothered by this, or am I the only one experiencing these problems? My first post on these forums was on this matter and I have not seen anyone else talking about this since.

By pad-ophiliac Sun Jul 30, 2006 8:08 pm
ryssen wrote:It´s really annoying when you find (what you think is) a clean loop point and it plays smooth the first two passes and then starts clicking lightly every second or third pass after that. Is anybody else bothered by this, or am I the only one experiencing these problems? My first post on these forums was on this matter and I have not seen anyone else talking about this since.


i used to bothered by this too. you think you have a perfect loop until it loops its third or fourth time and you hear the dreded click. but its all about the fine tuning. usually when i trim i use the hundreths digits to trim but if i hear a click i'll move to the smaller increments to fine tune. i can't remember the last time i was unable to make a seemsless-sounding loop. hope that helps.