Technical questions for the MPC2000xl and the MPC2000
By Rico_Suave Fri Feb 13, 2004 2:03 am
Hello,
Instead of getting breakbeats from records, I'm planning on having this guy playing live drums (any breakbeat I want) record it into my Roland VS-1624, then I'll sample it into my MPC. Please, I would like some opnions in this approach
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By filbo(nina) Fri Feb 13, 2004 2:58 am
That sounds dope. It'll give you a very live sound.

By elmacaco Fri Feb 13, 2004 4:11 am
DJ Rap used to do the same thing. Not sure if she still does.
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By dubmunkey Fri Feb 13, 2004 10:18 am
not a new approach but a damn good one! go for it!

greg
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By turn Fri Feb 13, 2004 10:31 am
i tried that once but only had one cheap mic.sounded real flat.
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By Cheech Fri Feb 13, 2004 12:01 pm
Turn is right, if you only have one crappy mic it's hard to get it to sound good. I suggest you do some research before bursting in the studio, i.e what mics you use / where to put them / what effects to run 'em through etc.
Do it properly and you'll get yourself some real nice sounding breaks.
Good luck!
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By Blaz4me Fri Feb 13, 2004 2:00 pm
He won't need a mic if the guitar player has a pick up mic and he most likely will. I do it from time to time and it's tight. I never used my effects but the 1824 has some tight ones. Not a new technique or overlooked one but definately a good one and the board you're using gives you an edge!

My bad on the post for some reason I just had guitar on the brain. Maybe because that's what I've been doing with my friends. As for a breakbeat site check here. It's free to download.


http://www.djbb.dk/bb_samples.php
Last edited by Blaz4me on Sun Feb 15, 2004 4:01 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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By MPC-Tutor Fri Feb 13, 2004 2:18 pm
Easier said than done - recording drums is an art - also you need to have a nice sounding kit and a tight drummer.

We get sent live recorded drum CDs all the time by wannabe sample CDs producers - most of them sound flat, distant and messy as hell.

There is a breakbeat site on the net that did this - record several hours of a session drummer in a studio, then cut it all up into a few thousand loops in Soundforge and stick it on a membership site. The results were pretty poor - for a start they have 3000 loops that all use the same kick, snare and hats! Even worse are the loops they ran through a vinyl simulator (why not record them to acetates like we do - costs are minimal).

Personally, I reckon a better way to do it is to hire a set of V-Drums - takes out the issue of mic recording, and VDrums feature some very phat samples. Then all you need is a good drummer and good mixing techinque.
By mpcvore Fri Feb 13, 2004 3:47 pm
...what is "acetates"?
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By MPC-Tutor Fri Feb 13, 2004 5:08 pm
It's a form of vinyl that only lasts for a few plays, used commonly for pressing up demos and test pressings to see if the mastering is okay (as vinyl needs corrective mastering otherwise the bass can knock the needle out of the grooves, plus other reasons).

A lot of DJs use them to try out their new songs in a DJ set. We have a stuido near us that presses up acetates quite cheaply.
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By eightsixteen Fri Feb 13, 2004 5:29 pm
MPC-Tutor wrote:Personally, I reckon a better way to do it is to hire a set of V-Drums - takes out the issue of mic recording, and VDrums feature some very phat samples. Then all you need is a good drummer and good mixing techinque.


Actually, if you use V-Drums couldn't you just record it as a MIDI sequence and just assign samples later in the MPC?