Page 217 of the Manual- Fixed sampling rate....

I guess this means there is no way to do a lo-fi sample recording. I'm confused with this. I swore I read somewhere that you can use a lower sample frequency to get more sample time. Maybe that was the 3.10 upgrade?

Can someone clarify this?

=DRUMZ.1

That is a feature of the 3.10. It isn't exactly lowering the sample rate, it is something else that I can't remember.

If you want lo fi, overdrive the sample input a little when sampling.

THe 60 as it stands is considered a lo fi machine, but it doesn't sound too crunchy unless you overdrive it.

I've also been pitching up my samples a full octave (or half) in order to gain more sample time. Then once i've sampled it into the machine, i'll pitch (tune) the sample down -120. I've learned that from owning a 5 second sampling SP-12 turbo.


drumat!c

damn that LSI sound processing chip. It won't give me a crunchy 12 bit because the sample rate is way too high. 40,000hz won't cut it. I need 27,500hz like the SP-12.

hahahahah kidding.

I never used the sample compression on 3.10 much, when I did I didn't hear a difference.

I've heard of this trick of speeding up the sample before sampling, but never tried it. Does it alter the sound in a noticable way? make it a bit grungy perhaps?

Hellyeah it does. It doesn't really sound grungy but it does sound dirty. It sound f'n amazing on RIDE CYMBOLS with a long decay. I sampled up some a few days ago to save room for more samples. It works great and gives you a different type of sound. Almost sounds like a low pass filter or something. Try it and let me knwo what you think. Just make sure you don't exceed the samplers range of +1/2 OCtave or - whole octave. I guess that means you have to only sample an instrument that has been pitched up a full octave. Keep in mind that you'd probably only wanna do this with drums or single instruments that you know you're not planning on tuning in the future.

DRUMZ.1

If you want that low sample rate sound, get an Emax SE HD. it will run you about $200.

It has a similar sampling engine to the SP 12 (the 1200 has lower rate) being a direct decendant of it.

I use one but not really for drums, with the 60 as sequencer.

Try the overdrive trick, pr get a distortion pedal.

thanks! i'll look into that.....still want an S950 for those filters and long sample time.

DRUMZ.1

The Emax has fully adjustable analog filters on every voice as well as a more flexible sampler than the SP's. Lots of other fun stuff too.

S950 is pretty dope too....

I use the compression often on the3.10 60. I also use the 45rpm trick as well on my turntable. The compression adds some interesting results depending on the sample. At times it doesnt vary much. Other times its does. If you really want a nasty garbled sound. Turn up the preamp to Hi... lol. I dont use that at all. Too much for me. I prefer to run my samples into the Emax pitch up....then sample into the MPC. With the compression plus that.... I have never needed more sample time. You would be surprised to know how much you can sqeeze out of the 60.

I second the Emax vote... You can adjust the sample rate down even lower than the SP-1200. Both are made by EMU so you will notice a similarity in the sound. Thick and gooey...in the middle sample rate ranges. Yum.

I thought the emax has limited pitch up range?

Does that have to do with the original sample note?

At 28k Hz with A# as the original sample note, I pitch down to C and up to B.

How do you pitch higher?

Only pitch up 1 semitone? Dayyyyumn cousin! Emu would have never sold ANY units if that really was the case.

Nah cat if you got the manual look on page 53 and 54. It gives you the max transposition UP in semitones and the deal on that. At 28 khz you should be able to go up 8 semitones. I generally sample at 16 and 20 khz. You get more UP transposition notes the lower the sample rate.

OK, I'll check it now.

Thanks!