Grid mode for tighter drum tracks??

Man this may be all in my head(I doubt it),but I just laid down a drum track(kick and snare) with t.c off and the pattern sounded a little off.I went back and did the same thing in grid edit mode and it came out perfect(t.c still off)Has anyone noticed this...........or let me put it this way-If your drum tracks or any track for that matter seems to be a little off sometimes try the grid edit mode and notice the difference!!1

Timing correct may be off in grid edit, but doesn't grid edit quantize your notes for you? So in a sense, isn't it like having TC on?

episode wrote:Timing correct may be off in grid edit, but doesn't grid edit quantize your notes for you? So in a sense, isn't it like having TC on?

No. When TC is off it just shows you all 96 steps per quarter note. And that's a lot. But I doubt it records differently in there.

_Stilo_ wrote:But I doubt it records differently in there.

That's what I thought, but have you ever experienced a track that sounds a little off? If you haven't this won't apply to you(no offense).If you have or if you ever do in the future the track that sounds a little off, erase it and re-record it using the grid edit mode and it comes out perfect.

I always use Grid Edit for creating drum tracks. I'm not a drummer, so I don't try to pretend I am.

NiBL wrote:I always use Grid Edit for creating drum tracks. I'm not a drummer, so I don't try to pretend I am.

LOL

Drawing events into the grid, results in accurate / dead on timing...and rightly so. TC On or Off makes no difference. Using the grid, allows one to place drum hits / or events on the dot.

This also applies to software like Logic or Cubase. Nothing new.

Groove66 wrote:This also applies to software like Logic or Cubase. Nothing new.

yep

Groove66 wrote::lol:

Drawing events into the grid, results in accurate / dead on timing...and rightly so. TC On or Off makes no difference. Using the grid, allows one to place drum hits / or events on the dot.

This also applies to software like Logic or Cubase. Nothing new.

What if you lay down a beat in the main screen with tc OFF, and then load it up in GRID mode with TC on ? The beats you laid down - are they still uncorrected ? Because they now appear 'in the grid' ...?

Upright wrote:

_Stilo_ wrote:But I doubt it records differently in there.

That's what I thought, but have you ever experienced a track that sounds a little off? If you haven't this won't apply to you(no offense).

No I didn't try it...I was just speaking from engineering judgement

So are you saying you record in Grid Edit by placing the notes manually? Or are you recording in real time there too?

cjp76 wrote:What if you lay down a beat in the main screen with tc OFF, and then load it up in GRID mode with TC on ? The beats you laid down - are they still uncorrected ? Because they now appear 'in the grid' ...?

I think they will only be corrected if you press the "Fix It" button after changing the TC setting. Otherwise it only affects the recording.

And as I mentioned before, the Grid can have a maximum of 96 steps per quarter note - the resolution of the sampler. If TC is off, these will all appear in the Grid. If it is set to 1/32, that is 8 notes per quarter (at 4/4), so it will only show every 12th step.

So "Timing Correct Off" only means, it gets quantized with 1/384 if you want.


Hope that gives a little insight.

_Stilo_ wrote:

Upright wrote:

_Stilo_ wrote:But I doubt it records differently in there.

That's what I thought, but have you ever experienced a track that sounds a little off? If you haven't this won't apply to you(no offense).

No I didn't try it...I was just speaking from engineering judgement

So are you saying you record in Grid Edit by placing the notes manually? Or are you recording in real time there too?

In grid edit mode I record in realtime.I have not tried placing the notes manually.

i use compression for tight drums. its easier.

dablunt wrote:i use compression for tight drums. its easier.

Compression? LOL ..............

...and I always thought I'd just have to set the start and end points closer together to make my drums tighter