Exchange tips and tricks for the Akai MPC4000
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By Blue Haze Mon Mar 20, 2006 8:49 am
Small tip for anyone just came across it on my new understanding of the 3k mpc in got.

Go to http://www.akaipro.com/archives.html then download the pdf for the S3200XL it`s program settings can be applied to the 4k Z8. :idea:

It`s simple as can be . :wink:

A little HISTORY does wonders.


Addition fuk it download the S5/6000 manual too explains multis, parts, programs better than any of the past posts on the boards. Damn Akai must of got lazy and when for cheap hiring writers of the 4k manuals. Or could the lack of experience did us in? I said us cuz I was in the same boat too ha, ha, ha. Anyway I think the newbies will definitiely have an much easier time with these than when use early adaptors with just the 4K owners manuals.

Same structures< slightly different terminalogy, check out the 5K APM aka 4K Program Matrix in the S5000 picture and how they came up with the crazy terms.

Roger Linn certainly keep it simple rule is the one to follow.

Small trivial I read that Roger Linn got his simple and ease layout and design from working with Stevie Wonder. Since Stevie is blind Roger wanted to based the whole flow of working on just sound and ease of use.

Ain`t that a something. 8)
Last edited by Blue Haze on Mon May 15, 2006 3:59 am, edited 2 times in total.
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By Blue Haze Mon Mar 20, 2006 11:33 am
Alright here is an example of what I`m talking about reading is essential from the S5/6000 manual download.

USING MULTIS
As mentioned, it is possible to have up to 128 multis in memory at any one time.

Each multi may contain as many as 128 programs or as little as one and each multi may contain a different combination of programs.

Basically, the MULTI mode is the S6000’s ‘play’ mode and is where you can play programs singly or in combination and is designed to be flexible enough to cover a wide range of applications.

Whereas on most synthesisers, sound modules, samplers, etc., you have various playback modes (single, multi, combi, performance, whatever), the S6000 has just one versatile and consistent play mode to cover all applications.


Some suggestions are shown here on the next few pages.
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USING MULTI MODE TO PLAY SINGLE PROGRAMS

A multi may contain just one program: The MULTI mode can be used to play single programs simply by assigning just one program to a part. In this way (especially with 128 multis available), the S6000 can be used as a simple playback module for playing single sounds.
NOTE: If you only intend using the S6000 to play single programs, you can simply use EDIT PROGRAM if you prefer. Using a multi to play a single program does give you greater flexibility,however, especially regarding the use of effects and outputs.


USING MULTI MODE TO PLAY LAYERED PROGRAMS

An extension of ‘single’ playback - by assigning several programs to a multi with each part set to the same MIDI channel, you may play layered programs: Here, several sounds are played simultaneously for greater texture.

Don’t forget that each of the layers may be mixed, panned, tuned/detuned, routed to separate outputs and/or the internal effects for even greater flexibility.

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USING MULTI MODE TO PLAY KEYSPLITS

Using the LOW NOTE/HIGH NOTE function in the FINE TUNE ‘window’, you may set key splits: In this example, UPRIGHT BASS could be set to cover C1-B2 with JAZZY ROADS PNO set to cover C3-E5 with a handful of BRASS STABS on F5-C6. The same technique could be used in a string section setup to have cellos in the bottom octaves and violas/violins in the top octaves.

Again, each ‘element’ in the keysplit may be routed to separate outputs and/or the effects for greater flexibility.

USING MULTI MODE MULTI-TIMBRALLY

Multi mode can also be used to play up to 128 sounds simultaneously on 32 MIDI channels9 :Here you can see each part has its own MIDI channel (VIEW 18 PARTS is shown here to make the example clearer).
Each sound may be mixed and panned and routed to different outputs (either as pairs or to individual outputs).

They may also be tuned and transposed and may also be routed to any one of the four effects channels (the EB20 is optional on the S5000).
However, when using the S6000 in this way, certain parts may be set to the same MIDI channel so that some parts will be layered (for example, in the above screen shot, Parts 10 and 11 both play SLAP BASS #1, presumably detuned for a rich, chorus bass sound) whilst other parts just play single programs.

You could also use keysplits within such a multi. 9 Even though a multi can have up to 128 parts, only 32 channels may be used. However, whilst at
first this may seem strange, this does allow many parts to be layered in a multi-timbral environment.
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PLAYING LIVE OVER A SEQUENCED BACKING TRACK

As well as 32-channel multi-timbral operation, the two MIDI inputs also allow you to play one or more sounds ‘live’ from a keyboard or other MIDI controller through one MIDI input whilst the other input is fed by a sequencer to provide a 16-channel multi-timbral backing track.

Such a multi may look something like this: In this example, the GRAND PIANO is the part you would play live through MIDI input B whilst the
other parts are sequenced via MIDI input A.

USING THE S6000 AS TWO SAMPLERS

Sometimes (especially in live situations), it is useful to have two keyboards on stage. This allows you to play two sounds simultaneously and/or allows you to quickly switch between sounds withouthaving to mess around with program changes. By connecting one keyboard to MIDI input A and
the other to MIDI input B, you may effectively use your S6000 as two samplers!

For example: In this example, one keyboard would play the GRAND PIANO sound whilst the other plays the huge layered pad combination. In such a situation, you might benefit from a weighted keyboard to play the grand piano sound and a synth action keyboard for other sounds.

Don’t forget that to further enhance the S6000’s capabilities in this application, the sounds playedby each keyboard could be routed to their own sets of outputs.

A further variation on this would be to have two musicians playing the S6000 simultaneously. For example, you could be vamping away on piano, clav - whatever - whilst the band’s drummer triggers drum and percussion sounds from MIDI pads!

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These are just a handful of examples of the flexibility of the S6000’s MULTI mode. No doubt you will find your own applications.

NOTES FOR EXISTING AKAI SAMPLER USERS.

The S6000’s MULTI mode replaces all other playback modes of Akai’s previous samplers. Previously, on the S1000, S1100 and S3000, S3200, multi-timbral operation, layers and keysplits were achieved by renumbering several programs to the same program number and then setting MIDI channels, levels, etc., for each program accordingly.

This had the advantage that whilst being a bit cumbersome to use, it did allow you to have up to 128 multi-timbral setups loaded simultaneously and these could be selected from the front panel or via MIDI program change very quickly and easily.

This way of working was good for live work, because, with some preproduction work, you could program your entire live set and have all the sounds for each song loaded into memory (notwithstanding the old samplers’ memory limits, of course) and ready for action with a turn of the DATA wheel or by sending out a MIDI program change command
from your keyboard to recall either a single sound, a set of layered or keysplit sounds or an entire multi-timbral setup.

Then, in the S2000 and XL range, Akai introduced the MULTI mode. This had the advantage of being quick and considerably easier to use plus had the benefit that you could use MIDI program change on specific MIDI channels to change sounds within individual parts.

However, having only one multi in memory at any one time restricted the MULTI mode’s ability to be used live. Furthermore, there was a limit of 16 parts (and 16 MIDI channels).

The S6000’s new MULTI mode embraces the benefits of both ways or working (as well as overcoming each one’s restrictions!) and offers the best of all worlds as well as many improvements and advantages:

• It is quick and easy to use.

• Up to 128 programs can be played simultaneously without the need for awkward renumbering.

Furthermore, using the CONVERT OLD MULTI function (PART/PROGRAM
TOOLS > PROGRAM LIST) allows you to convert ‘old’ Akai multis into the new format.

• Single program playback, layered programs, keysplits and multi-timbral operation can all be achieved within one convenient and consistent user interface.

• 32-channel multi-timbral operation.

• Up to 128 multis may be loaded into memory at any one time and can be selected from the front panel or via MIDI program or bank change thus allowing you to switch between single program playback, layered sounds, keysplits and/or multi-timbral operation quickly and conveniently (much like the ‘old’ Akai SINGLE mode, in fact!).

• The programs in each part may be changed via MIDI program change on specific MIDI channels.

Akai’s designers are well aware that for some ‘die-hard’ Akai users who may be used to using the ‘old’ Akai way of working, the new regime may require some adaptation but it is felt that the overwhelming benefits the new MULTI mode offers outweigh the temporary inconvenience of‘converting’ to this new method of operation.





Taken from the S5/6000 manual some different and very similar terms but the same structure. Easy to read and understand. Now it`s up to you. :lol: :lol: :lol:
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By dopedragon Tue Mar 21, 2006 12:31 am
thank you for the knowledge, blue. will check it soon.



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By Blue Haze Wed Mar 22, 2006 3:40 pm
Heed word riding on the train reading the S3200 manual is was the first akai sampler to which used the Multi standard alot of stuff starting coming to light.

Example Multi main purpose was to contain multple programs for the two main uses

As a multitimbial player more than one program playing at the sample time.

As a combination player to combine and layer multiple programs to create complex sounds same as a synth.

The simple layout, examples, instructions what everything does, and how it is use is close to being shocking as far as how clear and easy it is to understand cuz it gives explanations and examples.

Not just the function and where to find it like the 4k manual.

Another example tilt velocity why and how to use it many wonder and I did too?

Most of the intial settings of the 4k multis programs and program matrix was set for layering two or more programs by assigning to the same midi channel 1A and setting the tilt velocity of one program or keygroup to like +40 and the tilt velocity of the other program to -10 thus when they are played together they with crossfade together with one sound playing louder and the other playing softer for blend.

Just one example that I learned from the S3200/S5000 manual that the 4k never explained but like I said before last yr that Akai probably assume users knew this if I you step up from a S series or S5000.


Personally I never used a full sampler before the 4k like the S950, S1000, S2000, S3000, or S5000/6000 series I just knew it was a Z8 and it was more powerful than a 2xl mpc which was my background. But all of the samplers S3200 series on up basically operate the same way with the same layout Akai changed the terms on the Z series alittle increased the memory, specs on resolutions and tweak the software but it still is build up from the S3200 sample engine.

Definitively the Z8 is a higher spec than the S5000 but the gear is more like a S5000 with midi controllers and some improved software parameters fitted into a mpc. Wonder why the 4k was so huge? Think of the past Akai beige boxes and you will get an idea. Even my recent purchased 3k is smaller than the 4k.

So in parting download those manuals that I recommended it I`m positive you have a greater understanding and creative endeavors with your sampler plus mpc I would say cuz a S series sampler layout were vastly different than the mpc series. Which I realize it the heart of the confusion for most mpcs users crossing over to the 4k.

It`s may be your first full sampler. A sampler in a lot of ways is a synth.


Now you ask why did I even research this anyway as a 4k mpc user because I picked up a 3k last weekend and I wanted to know more about the 3k`s engine because it too is based on the S3000/S3200 series when I look it over damnnnnnnn mad simple and I realized this is the same shit as the Z8/4k and I checked the S5 too. Stupid ass 4k writers should made their manauls just as simple since they are the same things but.......two 1/2 yrs later I share this tips with you now :oops:


For the newbies get it for the vets peace of mind on your 4k.


I really like my 4k much more now cuz my understanding when up.


3k is nice too but that is on the 3k forums

Peace out bang out the beats less confusion on the boards :idea:


**** all the BS make your music with your tools. 8)
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By phanatik Wed Mar 22, 2006 6:28 pm
so wht category doesthis Z series fall in ... im comparison 2 the 4k?

I have a Z4 but cant use it bcuz it gets tooo hot and freezes ... and all the wrk gets stuck and cant save so im usin the 4k.

I dont kno Y it gets mega hot!! and gets stuck. bought it new awhile ago so its out of warranty. but I did like it.. it was easy 2 use 2 me.

I started out on an ASR-X then ASX-Pro.. then a MPC 2000...60...3000...2000XL w/ Z4... still have the 2kXL and Z4 but only use the 4K now.

Could u let me kno whts the difference/better engine and how can i get this thing back in use!?

thnkx
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By Blue Haze Wed Mar 22, 2006 6:43 pm
phanatik wrote:so wht category doesthis Z series fall in ... im comparison 2 the 4k?

I have a Z4 but cant use it bcuz it gets tooo hot and freezes ... and all the wrk gets stuck and cant save so im usin the 4k.

I dont kno Y it gets mega hot!! and gets stuck. bought it new awhile ago so its out of warranty. but I did like it.. it was easy 2 use 2 me.

I started out on an ASR-X then ASX-Pro.. then a MPC 2000...60...3000...2000XL w/ Z4... still have the 2kXL and Z4 but only use the 4K now.

Could u let me kno whts the difference/better engine and how can i get this thing back in use!?

thnkx


The 4k engine is a based on the Z series 96kHz and etc. I would take your sampler to a shop as this is a forum for tips. I`m not a techician or repairman leave that for someone skilled in that area.

As for as samplers and please read my post carefully the S3200 series through Z series are all using the Akai Multis, programs system. The previous manual explain the usage better than your current 4k users does.

Forget all about better engine that`s a trap focus on how to use it, download the S3200 and the S5/6000 series first to get what I`m talking about and read it. Your eyes will be opened.



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Call your local Akai rep to get repairs I got to take in the 3k for the after button and display too. ha, ha,

By drumtrack Wed Mar 22, 2006 6:50 pm
you have an mpc4000 and mpc3000? Nice! :D
.. i am a previous S5000 user so the multi/program terminolgy was a breeze 8)
.. i think i ahve the original s5k manual laying around somewhere.. gotta take a look.
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By Blue Haze Mon Mar 27, 2006 2:21 am
Reading both the S5/6000 manual and the S3200 with make the 4k easy to understand and widened the gap between users. Alot of basic questions will be answered by these. The 4k is a very powerful it is much more than a mpc.


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By Blue Haze Mon May 15, 2006 3:25 am
Bump :idea:
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By Blue Haze Mon Aug 21, 2006 4:13 am
Bump again 2006 :idea:
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By Re: Wed Aug 23, 2006 10:07 am
Thanks alot Haze 8)
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By Blue Haze Sat Sep 30, 2006 4:57 pm
Bump