JJ, OS3 and recollective Making front page on musicthing....

Oh yea and Pong.

http://musicthing.blogspot.com/

impressive and a bit concerning.

The Buzz is Spreading, Big.

Man... JJ's taking over this b!tch

Oh dear.
The cat is now out of the bag.

HAHAHHAHAHAAHHAHAH man they even quoted me

i love music thing this is awesome. and they qouted antonym lol

yea musicthing is awsome, im a daily reader as well as many avid musicians. It was only a matter of time the OS Hack would bleed into the mainstream publishing blogs. I wouldn't be suprised if your read about it in scratch magazine a few weeks from today or it making sonicstate.com headline news. It's not the first ime an OS has been hacked or modified but, i feel, let me rephrase that, i KNOW this hack is very improtant. i could elaborate but rather not at this moment, well... i can say its one of a kind. its not very common especially at this caliber.

i could elaborate but rather not at this moment, well...

elaborate.

I don't understand coding at all.

How could the JJ OS could have been created? In my next-to-zero understanding, I'd imagine it was either:

1) JJ started from scratch, reverse-engineering every single aspect of the MPC1000 function, so that - for example - they wrote a filter algorithm to make the filters, trying to emulate the sound of the filters in the original software. They'd have had to re-invent the timestretch algorithms etc.

or

2) JJ had access the Akai source code, and have been adding to it, so all the basic work was already done.

Could the JJ OS have been created without the source code? I could just be misunderstanding the relationship between source code and a working program...

To me, 1) sounds like really an extraordinary amount of hard and tedious work. And why painstaikingly recreate the existing filters and effects? Why not add totally different, more interesting ones?

Any ideas? - Or has this all been covered somewhere else - i must admit I haven't read all through the 45-page mega post...

tombola wrote:2) JJ had access the Akai source code, and have been adding to it

thats probably the most likely, IMO

damn imagine if we had the code

me having the code would be like me having my own runway and a jet...

anything i'd do would just make everything craaaaaaaaaash


...
into the white house

tombola wrote:
2) JJ had access the Akai source code, and have been adding to it, so all the basic work was already done.

JJ has the source code because they actually work for and/or affiliated with Numark/Akai. The beta JJ OS made available is just the unfinished Akai OS. What Akai is doing is letting JJ release the unfinished OS for the 1000 (and perhaps the 2500) and cleverly tricking users into beta testing the OS for them and charging you for the final product. Numark/Akai are using the same method employed by Roland...charging you for an OS update which was previously free. Mo money...mo money...mo money

(The comments made by Jahrome are not indorsed by MPC Forums. These comments are not based on any known facts and can only be considered speculation at best.)

disclaimer aside, wouldn't akai be doing this first for the 2500 if this was the case? why would they start with the 1000? seems like a questionable move.

not moving to argue on what you said was speculation, just wondering what you thought.

Antonym wrote:
disclaimer aside, wouldn't akai be doing this first for the 2500 if this was the case? why would they start with the 1000? seems like a questionable move.

not moving to argue on what you said was speculation, just wondering what you thought.

Since the 2500 and 1000 OS are pretty much the same..it really doesn't matter. Think about it.....the 1000 came out several years ago. In effect, it could actually be considered the beta version of the 2500. Since the 1000 is the more affordable (most likely the best sellling) it would be better to market this 'new' OS to users who wouldn't mind and have time to beta test the OS.

Just my thoughts/speculation. If people believe Bush blew up the Towers...why not my MPC theory

thing is, this isn't so much "testing" because it doesn't interrupt work.

i didn't go on any bughunts, really, just continued work as usual. i've made more music on os3 than off...i think most would agree.

also, the 1000 got the 2.1 update, which we'd still be ok with had we never heard of jj. the 2500 has yet to receive an update of that degree, know what i'm saying?

EITHER way, i guarantee that the 2500 will have all of the features shown here through akai or through the jj someday. i would rather it be jj, personally, because they have created a lot of really nice shortcuts and post-akai concepts (mode/pad11).

as you said, the machines are the same inside - so how hard do you think it'd be for jj to just add in the extra code for more outputs and midi stuff? my bet is not very...my bet is that it'll happen someday. if that happened, akai would have NOTHING to complain about.

software wise the machines could be replicas. that will be really badass for all parties involved, and a fresh breath of life for akai.