JJ, OS3 and recollective Making front page on musicthing....

All what features?? The JJ OS doesn't really add anything the 2500 doesn't have. It moves some features around...changes some of the menus..but there really isn't no real features that will improve making music. The 2500 doesn't really need a major upgrade like the 1000 because it came with everything previous MPCs had before it (minus the 4000) and even more. There are very few issues that need to be addressed though.

You say that there was very little testing..but reading through the bug reports/threads of other users..it paints a different picture...thus the OS is not finalized. There are far more bugs than I can recall from an Akai released OS..which is normal because it is a beta.

I don't believe you or other 1000 users would have been satisfied with just the OS 2.1 though. Anyone can see that on the first page of the 1000 forum (not saying that 2500 users don't do exactly the samething). Users here always demand more...buy something to just complain that it needs more functions...

It realy doesn't matter who does the OS. I just speculated that JJ is actually Numark's way of charging you for an OS. Its a great plan and its working. $35 is alot cheaper than I paid to upgrade my Fantom to version 2.

The 2500 has received significant improvements this year that were not available when it was released last year. The last 2 updates were bug fixes and there should be more on the horizon.

But...initially I was not talking about the 2500. Just my theory about JJ.

The JJ OS doesn't really add anything the 2500 doesn't have

correct me if the 2500 have any of these features, seriously, because in some cases i don't know - this is what you guys stand to gain. if all this stuff is standard on the 2500, i agree with you.

however, as i see it, this isn't just a 2500 hack - this is a full blown better os than anything the 1000 or 2500 has ever seen. this os is not finalized because...well, it's not being sold yet. we're still dealing with 3.05, after all.

anyway, check this out and tell me what's up. these are things i got from the biglobe page - pretty exciting stuff, i mean...stuff that should/could have been there to begin with, but you know.

qlink sliders effect an entire program, not just one pad
qlink sliders control tempo
global program parameter changes (tune, effects, lfos, filters, etc)
modification of metronome sound (i know, a goofy addition but w/e)
stereo slicing (!!!)
VASTLY improved filebrowser
improved trim screen
ability to make half slices (great for pickups)

as well as other stuff here and there. i'm betting simult is on the way.

jahrome wrote:

If people believe Bush blew up the Towers...why not my MPC theory

Because Bush blew up the towers.

Ant,

Aside from the "half slice" feature, which I'm not sure what you mean, we have none of those features. Nor do we have the filter per layer feature...damnit.

by half slice, i meant like...in chopshop you can specify how many slices you want, like...

2,4,6,8 etc
but you can go deeper, like 7, 5, 3

or even deeper, like 1.5, 2.5, 6.7... you can cut up to tenths of a slice...see what i mean?

We don't have that either.

you will. dont worry.

as far as i'm concerned, having "team spirit" for a certain mpc as "better" or "the best" is a waste of time. cpu - we are the same. converters, basiaclly everythign else? the same.

juuuuuust wait, if you can. if you can afford it and it complements the way you work, get both the 2500 and 1000. use 1000 if you like to produce in public/on the road/anywhere outside your studio and keep your 2500 hooked up to your mixer, etc.

at this point i have no use for the extra midis/extra outs due to my mackie 120vlz being crammed with stuff as is...and my delta only takes 4 ins anyway. plus, i move around so much that the 2500 is just not convenient enough for me. someday, however, i may need it.

Antonym wrote:
correct me if the 2500 have any of these features, seriously, because in some cases i don't know - this is what you guys stand to gain. if all this stuff is standard on the 2500, i agree with you.

however, as i see it, this isn't just a 2500 hack - this is a full blown better os than anything the 1000 or 2500 has ever seen. this os is not finalized because...well, it's not being sold yet. we're still dealing with 3.05, after all.

anyway, check this out and tell me what's up. these are things i got from the biglobe page - pretty exciting stuff, i mean...stuff that should/could have been there to begin with, but you know.

qlink sliders effect an entire program, not just one pad
qlink sliders control tempo
global program parameter changes (tune, effects, lfos, filters, etc)
modification of metronome sound (i know, a goofy addition but w/e)
stereo slicing (!!!)
VASTLY improved filebrowser
improved trim screen
ability to make half slices (great for pickups)

as well as other stuff here and there. i'm betting simult is on the way.

Although you have taken a detour from my theory about JJ and focused it more towards the 1000 and 2500

I really can't correct you because the 2500 doesn't have any of those features. As a long time MPC 3000 and 2000XL user that made the switch to the 2500 (before everyone on this site ), I wrote several threads last year, way before Akai...I mean JJ...were talking about improving the MPCs operating system. None of the reported features that are coming made my personal list. So since we are talking about it now...here is what will blow my mind if JJ, Akai, or who ever..can add to the 1000 or MPC 2500:

Jahrome wrote months ago:
1. Multiple Continuous sample tracks (16 minimum). Allow the audio in these tracks to follow tempo changes in realtime. Allow Patched Phrases to be assigned to these Continuous sample tracks.
2. Recording/streaming samples directly to/from hard disk
3. Enhanced effects/dynamics (EQ for each sample). Effect Presets.
4. Better MTC sync
5. Expanded sequencer (300,000 notes per sequence..just because)
6. Data compatibility w/ all Akai S/MPC formats, and Roland/Emu CD Roms
7. Sample editing: Resampling, coverting stereo-mono, and mono-stereo
8. CD burning: Data back up
9. Screen Saver
10. 2 MIDI channels per track like the MPC 3000
11. Simult-trigger up to 3 samples assigned to pads
12. Auto assign samples to a program upon loading. Currently, its easy to load 64 samples into the 2500s RAM. But its time consuming to assign these samples to a program. I would do back flips for this function.
13. Display levels when sampling 2500 outputs
14. Aksys Software for the 2500
15. Sample slice: generate sequence data for sliced samples (slightly different than Patched Phrase).

Now that is what I call enhancements instead of just tinkering with changing the way things that were practically already possible.

Two MPCs? Got that already

15. Sample slice: generate sequence data for sliced samples (slightly different than Patched Phrase).

right on, that would be so great

all they'd need to do is just create a midi file when they chop

nah, man that's a really good list. soem of the things i wouldn't be interested in (effects wise, etc) but that's because i don't rely on 1 box for everything and i wouldn't want to...i think tracking into a software unit does some great things for my music in particular that an mpc could not)

11. Simult-trigger up to 3 samples assigned to pads

fukk yes.

2. Recording/streaming samples directly to/from hard disk

or at least from mem card, since mem cards don't spin. sp404 does this, and it's lunacy how much you can store/use.

Hey Jahrome, the JJ team is working on the 2500 next, according to what I just saw. Submit any bugs you know at the link on the bottom of the page...

http://www7a.biglobe.ne.jp/%7Empc1000/

Who ever is behind JJ...I wish them all the luck and would be happy for an enhanced OS. But honestly, the current OS of the 2500 does everything I need it to do and more. My list would be nice, but not really necessary because I do use plenty of external gear. The automatic assigning of samples to a program is something I feel the 2500 needs though. As far as bugs in the 2500, most/if not all of the reproducable bugs many forum members have posted have been addressed with OS updates. If I am counting correctly..that is 4 updates this year. So Akai hasn't abandoned the 2500. As long as they are releasing OS for their product, I am happy.

Since we are on this topic..hell, JJ need to go do something with the XL or 3000. I would mos def pay for an improved OS for my MPC 3000.

Well....when JJ finishes the OS for the 1000 and you guys find it stable and wonderful...then I will possibly get my hopes up for a 2500 3rd party OS if it has the functions I listed already. I haven't read about/seen a function that JJ have implemented or plan to implement that excites me yet.

jahrome wrote:Since we are on this topic..hell, JJ need to go do something with the XL or 3000. I would mos def pay for an improved OS for my MPC 3000.

veeeeeeery unlikely.

the mpc1000 is a modern hardware platform that is relatively easy to program for - hell, it's almost a PC under the hood.

the 3000, otoh... trying to put an OS like the MPC1k onto the MPC3000 would be like trying to cram a dumptruck transmission into a lawnmower...

damned nice lawnmower tho.

I am talking about a semi-complete OS and hardware jack. Upgrade the motherboard and processor and LCD screen and give the rest of it intact..same converters and what not....I know it will most likely never happen...

But I have a dream of a 20th Anniversary Edition MPC. Put the 2500 into the MPC 3000.

Which do you prefer buying, The MPC 1000 or The MPC 2500?

what the f*kc? epic timewarp thread bounce.

i saw "OS 3" in the subject & got all excited.

you do realize you're responding to someones post from a year and a half ago, right? not to mention you're off-topic for this forum.