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By Kon B Sat Sep 02, 2006 3:10 pm
For a long time I've had my eyes on the 2000xl for it's timestretch feature and now since they upgraded to a multi card reader this is my future machine hopefully. I keep hearing that I should get the 2500 or the 1000.

Here are my user habits:

I don't use PC software for recording (only hardware).

I don't move around much with my machine

I save my beats on floppy and Zip drives.




Am I a dinosaur for thinking this way (getting the XL and not the newer models)??

I heard the timing isn't better on the newer machinces.
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By Kon B Sun Sep 03, 2006 2:34 am
mnh2410 wrote:Based on your preference then I say go for the XL or keep the mpc2000. I use an mpc2000 and i love it. I dont plan on ever saleing it even if i get an Roland MV-8000.

Nicole


I hear good things about the MV-8000 too. Jermine Dupri speaks highly about it on youtube. But back to Akai ..... I still want to keep my 2000 for historical reasons and the XL in my mind is probably my best choice for another MPC.

Thanks for the feedback

By floatation Wed Sep 06, 2006 8:07 am
Since you are familiar with the 2000, go with the 2000XL.
And here is why..
The 1000 feels cheap and like a toy..Those who have used older MPC's seem to agree..
Coming from the MPC3000/2000/ 2000XL point of view, I felt uncomfortable on the 1000 + 2500...Things didnt seem right for some reason..
The 2000XL has some nice features (my favorite is the track mute button which enables me to mute tracks via the pads much easier than on the 2000). and of course all the other new features...
You can get the 2000XL's dirt cheap now..

I made the mistake of selling my 2000XL thinking the 1000 was what I needed..I sold the 1000 immediately..Then had to buy another 2000XL..

if your really considering a switch, spend some serious time with the 1000/2500...Then you will really know..
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By dabmeister Thu Sep 07, 2006 8:58 pm
Hey Kon, I need to know...how are you doing it? I mean really, how? How are you living amongst us cyber folk and not use a computer to record with? Do you know what you're honestly missing? A lot...but don't get me wrong, I'm not riding you about this, just letting you know there's a much bigger scope that you're missing out on. I tried that theory years ago but was TOO convinced that computers would do a better job at recording. When I got into computers, win95 & 98 (S.E. had'nt been released yet) were mainstream then. That was when you did'nt have todays type of platform. Everything was a hit or a miss. IRQ conflicts, freeze ups, and other unwanted artifacts plagued most of us in those early days. But to compare how things are today versus back then...we've never had it sooooo good. Compatibility was one of the main issues. Mfg's somehow found a way to unify and come to an agreement on something. As a matter of fact, I just rebuilt my old ladys PC about a month ago. I've found from experience that if you decide to do-it-yourself, make sure you pick a motherboard w/ an INTEL chipset. I've tried some of the others (VIA for one) but they did'nt quite meet the demands. Currently I'm trying one of those dual core processors, the Pentium-D 930 (3.0 ghz) w/ an SATA HD. I also found a nice prog. that'll ghost your whole drive, partitions and all. And the biggest thing of all is...I never had any formal training or tutoring. IT JUST TAKES A LITTLE COMMON SENSE. It made sense to me. Try it 8)
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By dabmeister Thu Sep 07, 2006 9:17 pm
Oh btw, the Pentium-D series' processor prices have fallen big time. Since the introduction of the new DUO core, they've become very reasonable. I found the only difference between them is that they run cooler & faster and they don't consume as much power to do so.
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By konc3pt Fri Sep 08, 2006 1:51 am
mnh2410 wrote:Based on your preference then I say go for the XL or keep the mpc2000. I use an mpc2000 and i love it. I dont plan on ever saleing it even if i get an Roland MV-8000.

Nicole


werent you saving up for 2500 at one point of the time ? I'm almost positive you wanted 2500 or 1000 if it didnt work out with 2500

Marek
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By mnh2410 Fri Sep 08, 2006 2:33 am
konc3pt wrote:werent you saving up for 2500 at one point of the time ? I'm almost positive you wanted 2500 or 1000 if it didnt work out with 2500

Marek


MPC 1000, MPC2500, and MV-8000 were my three choices. Never mention the MV8000 here really cause this is an MPC environment.

Nicole

By homiedontplaydat Fri Sep 08, 2006 4:51 pm
I'd go for a 2000XL if I were you. It's an excellent machine.
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By Kon B Sat Sep 09, 2006 5:14 pm
dabmeister wrote:Hey Kon, I need to know...how are you doing it? I mean really, how? How are you living amongst us cyber folk and not use a computer to record with? Do you know what you're honestly missing? A lot...but don't get me wrong, I'm not riding you about this, just letting you know there's a much bigger scope that you're missing out on. I tried that theory years ago but was TOO convinced that computers would do a better job at recording. When I got into computers, win95 & 98 (S.E. had'nt been released yet) were mainstream then. That was when you did'nt have todays type of platform. Everything was a hit or a miss. IRQ conflicts, freeze ups, and other unwanted artifacts plagued most of us in those early days. But to compare how things are today versus back then...we've never had it sooooo good. Compatibility was one of the main issues. Mfg's somehow found a way to unify and come to an agreement on something. As a matter of fact, I just rebuilt my old ladys PC about a month ago. I've found from experience that if you decide to do-it-yourself, make sure you pick a motherboard w/ an INTEL chipset. I've tried some of the others (VIA for one) but they did'nt quite meet the demands. Currently I'm trying one of those dual core processors, the Pentium-D 930 (3.0 ghz) w/ an SATA HD. I also found a nice prog. that'll ghost your whole drive, partitions and all. And the biggest thing of all is...I never had any formal training or tutoring. IT JUST TAKES A LITTLE COMMON SENSE. It made sense to me. Try it 8)


I understand the flexability of the PC but it's not my thing when recording. One of my boys uses Cubase and it's a great software but I don't like conducting a sessions clicking a mouse. I don't like feeling as though I'm in the office at work. I like sliding faders and pressing buttons. Plus I've been around horrible situations where the PC crashes and they lost all songs. Trust me, I know what PC recording can do but I don't need all of that. Just give me a good piece of hardware and I'm happy.
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By Kon B Wed Sep 27, 2006 5:20 pm
Okay guys

I went to Guitar center the other day and spoke to a very knowledgeable person about the MPCs and he's insisting on me getting the MPC 2500 because he has it. He was very convincing and also a pretty good producer so I respect his opinion. Before I knew I wanted the XL but now talking to him I'm wondering what I should do because now I'm leaning toward the 2500. :?

I guess my fear is that the sound I put in the 2500 will sound too thin or not what I expect. Also if I do get the 2500 all the beats I made with the 2000 will be a b*tch to remake on the 2500.

I guess my question is ..... what are the pros and cons of the 2500??? I mean I know the XL is a proven machine but the 2500 is still kinda new and I'm afraid software issues and bugs. :?
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By krang Wed Sep 27, 2006 11:51 pm
if you can easily find the 8-out expansion board for the 2000xl, go for it.