What is missing in JJs OS compared to Akai's OS 2.1?

I am new to the MPC-1000 and just picked one up last weekend. I flashed Akais newest OS (Version 2.1). I am a long time MPC-60 user though, so most of the stuff is very familiar.

However, I wonder - since JJs OS is based on Akai's 1.xx Version) what Akai implemented that is missing in JJs OS? Since I am late to the game I never went through the odeal of dealing with Akai's buggy OS and really appreciate JJs efforts. I don't mind spending the $$$ for his OS 1.xx but I would like to take at least full advantages of what I have right now.

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BTW, it was funny to see that Akai had/s problems with their software as well. They were so full of themselves when they parted with Roger Linn because they thought they can do it better. I never was really impressed by the 2k. I found the 1k giving me more sampling time and I can bring in audio tracks (now where the bugs are worked out). The 60 is a little limited in this case.

Since I am late to the game

there's that g word again...haha

i'm not sure i understand what you maen - are you asking what's in the akai os that is not in the JJ os? if that's your question, the only thing i can thnk of is apparently you can't change the tempo of patched phrases, but i am not sure since i never use that function anyway.

if i misunderstood you please correct me

Yes, Antonym, that was what I asked. However, I saw on JJs page that he is working on using the Qlink sliders for selecting sample start and end points. Isn't this already a feature in the current OS? So there must be more than just the tempo changes.

Actually, I guess I was a little early to the MPC game, when I traded my 909 for acid junkies MPC-60. Just late for the 1k, but with the buggy reputation I just could not get myself to be beta tester again!

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However, I saw on JJs page that he is working on using the Qlink sliders for selecting sample start and end points. Isn't this already a feature in the current OS?

this refers to pads during playback - say you have a string sample. qlink 1 would be the start, 2 would be the end - and as the sample is playing in your seq, you could adjust the start/end points.

i think.

otherwise, nah the os only gives...it never takes.

However, I saw on JJs page that he is working on using the Qlink sliders for selecting sample start and end points. Isn't this already a feature in the current OS?

I noticed in the trim section you cant use the q-links for this any more. And I also noticed if you hold down shift to select the start or end faster, this feature doesnt seem to work for me anymore either..

Antonym wrote:otherwise, nah the os only gives...it never takes.

sorry Nym but this is not 100% true.

with the current JJ os, it is impossible to go to [track mute] screen after [REC] or [DUB] without doing [stop]. (which was possible in all previous os)

more explanation at the end of this thread.
http://www.mpc-forums.com/viewtopic.php?t=58851

i miss changing tempo to patch phrase. i use pp alot

actually it's not missing in comparision, but what about bit-reduction in trim/edit-screen? ...i think that bitgrunger-effect is useless

how can u say its not missing if u go to trim screen for a pp then go to the pp name and hit window u only see changeing semitones and cents but no changing tempo.in os 2 by akai its in there. without changing tempo this feature is a pain in the ass. u have to rechop that sample and then give it a new tempo. grrrrr

truvc wrote:with the current JJ os, it is impossible to go to [track mute] screen after [REC] or [DUB] without doing [stop]. (which was possible in all previous os)

thanks for clearing that up - i never use the mutes so i wouldn't hvae seen that

Antonym wrote:

truvc wrote:with the current JJ os, it is impossible to go to [track mute] screen after [REC] or [DUB] without doing [stop]. (which was possible in all previous os)

thanks for clearing that up - i never use the mutes so i wouldn't hvae seen that

no problems. i actually did remember that you never used track mutes. it is another good thing about the mpc: it is so flexible that different people can use it completely differently.

anyway, i really hope the JJ can sort out the track mute. that was one of the reasons i bought the mpc actually: no need to press stop to overdub or do many stuff...

i stop my sequence so often it sounds like my machine is coughing up songballs. i think it's because i started producign on a PC, i don't really worry about stopping/starting...i know there are people who like to leave it playing the whole time to do their thing. maybe that's why i suck at the sp404.

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However, I wonder - since JJs OS is based on Akai's 1.xx Version)


It is?

it's based on akai's 2.01, hence the same timestretching algorhythm and timestretch bug (noise glitch at the end of a timestretched sample)

jj has built a couple os's from scratch for the 1k though but they weren't anything to write home about. i expect future work from him in the future in terms of plugins and extras sold separately...maybe an effects patch or smoething for 20 bucks to add into the os

Yes I was aware of this, I was just asking because I was wondering where he got that idea in the first place.

Actually, I think I might know. It's pretty clear that the JJ OS naming/numbering scheme vs. Akai's has (understandably) confused alot of the people who haven't been following this since the beginning. Here's the JJ history I remember (and still have on my harddrive -- feel free to correct me here, maybe this should be turned into a JJ history sticky for the newbies):


1. MPC 1000ex -- The first "JJ" venture, well before anybody was calling them JJ. This was a direct copy of Akai's then-current v1.07 with the exact same functions, save some extra code tacked on that allowed you to switch your boot source from the internal flash to the CF by holding down one of the buttons at power-up. It was released with three alternate-function operating systems in the form of .bos files which you placed at the root of the CF: ms1000 (a midi utility/data filer), wp1000 ("wave prayer"-- sort of a DJ tool for playing back/messing up extended length samples or completed tracks) and vc1000 ("voice changer" -- released as a timeout demo only; same as "wave prayer" with an added realtime pitch change/pitch shift via the qlinks). All three of these were completely different from the Akai OS both in functions and UI. When the news of Akai's V2 OS first hit JJ announced they would release a V2 copy that did the same thing, but as far as I know the whole thing was shelved in favor of the NEW OS project.

2. JJ's MPC1000 v3.xx OS -- The free NEW OS pre-release. Obviously based on Akai's 2.1 and dubbed as "3" (we assume) to get people's attention and to tell them they were getting the "next step" beyond Akai's OS i.e. there was never a "JJ V2". If Akai ever does release an official MPC 1000 V3 I'm sure it'll create even more confusion. BTW anybody think that's gonna happen?

3. MPC 1000 NEW OS v1.xx -- a "new OS" with new numbering. What we're all playing with now. Right? Not to be confused with Akai's MPC 1000 v1.xx.