really short loops = good strange noises

Anyone have an explanation for the cool noises which result when set a really short loop time (~100) on a sample ?

Sounds sort of like a modem connecting.

Not sure if this is the same thing, but a friend had the 2800xl and sometimes he'd get it to play wierd sounds like you describe, after a while, we figured out it was a bug in software that would play through the whole memory of samples at strange speeds...I'll definitely try it...I love odd sounds

jksuperstar wrote:Not sure if this is the same thing, but a friend had the 2800xl and sometimes he'd get it to play wierd sounds...I love odd sounds

I bet the 2800xl played some pretty weird sounds - That was Akai's super limited edition they only made like 2 and they did a bunch of weird stuff to the OS just to F*** with people -

I'm giving you a hard time - I couldn't resist...maybe the jokes on me and I missed the Akai 2800xl

Is a rack mount sampler... it's real!

OH yeah absolutely right - jokes on me - that's what happens i guess - so the fore letter of S would have helped S2800xl

Sorry jksuperstar

check out my post on Hidden Delay, it's related to looping.

i love this freaking box!

I used to do the same thing on my old ensoniq eps16+. Would sometimes make some cool glitching tricks. I wonder if it's due to the sample alaising on it's self, trying to make up for the missing frequencies?

wow! i was gonna say the same thing. i used to do this on my eps too, weird

it would spaz out and play samples at different speeds that i was working on 2 weeks prior. the first time it happened i almost crappéd in my pants

i notced a few days ago thw 1k does it too. i wonder why they do that

for anyone that wants to check it out, take any sample and loop it. put the loop points REALLY close to each other and see what happens. move the loop points while the sample is playing for extra...stuff

nope. not a glitch, just a very short looped sample.

how short did you make it? im saying like one or 2 samples should do it

Then theorically you can reach the same sound with an editor ie on a computer modifiing the speed of the sample. The question is that i cannot reach with Peak some high frequences that come along with low speeded samples when i loop this way on mpc. Are somekind of rebounding interferences. Anyone can tell me if there's anything else applied to this samples by mpc1000?

INA wrote:Then theorically you can reach the same sound with an editor ie on a computer modifiing the speed of the sample. The question is that i cannot reach with Peak some high frequences that come along with low speeded samples when i loop this way on mpc. Are somekind of rebounding interferences. Anyone can tell me if there's anything else applied to this samples by mpc1000?

no, it is a hardware glitch, apprently there becuase of some way that hardware samplers are coded. you wont get this effect on a computer IMO, only a very short loop

on the hardware samplers that do this you can hear the sampler start to freak out a little, playing back pieces of samples that are not actually loaded at the time. and they play back at different speeds..

it's all somewhat random sounding and is kinda cool to listen to, or even use as a compositional tool.

Sure man, but i'm triyng to know how it modulates the sample memory. Because it's a sampler, this modulation should be replicable. But mpc1000 has not all sampling functions, that's why i use Peak or any other editor. What i'm looking for is someone who knows how to do it on pourpose. It sounds like aphex twin, or any one of these sampling masters spezialized in destroyin samples. What i didn' knew was that ALL hardware samples use to do that "trick".

Word!
That's why I never sold my Ensoniq EPS, because of that weird feature. I would close the loop so small, it would start doing a "loop feedback" and evetually start playing back all samples in memory at very low pitches. I just bought the MPC-1000 this past weekend and haven't tried this on it yet.

INA wrote: What i didn' knew was that ALL hardware samples use to do that "trick".

i dont know that they all do it. i dont think my s3000xl did it