Forum to discuss all matters relating to the MPC1000 and MPC2500 operating systems created by 'JJ' (all versions).
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By gunmetal Sat Oct 07, 2006 7:02 am
You guys (you know who you are :wink: ) are on the money. Good lookin for making backups on the files just in case the party stopped!!! I did the same thing too yo!!! 8) ... cuz i thought, after the JJ released the simult function then the site went down for a little bit that.... Wakai sicked their robo-lawyers to shut the JJ down on some ish like: "Alright we need to make money on our more expensive larger models... STOP IT!!!!" It's only logical to think that they would be made to cease and desist due to the fact that they were doing the very thing that Wakai WOULD NOT do: Satisfy their existing loyal customers who already spent their hard earned money on their MPC 1000's and create complacency. But, the general non-reading/learning public pre o.s. 2.01 is basicaly given the option (that's if wakai had their way) to: A. make due with the MPC 1000 stripped to all hell, or B. spend thousands$$$$ more on equipment with 'more features'. Which is very F****D up due to the fact that those new and old features can be programed in the MPC 1000 due to the fact that the MPC 1000 and the mpc 2500 have the same processor. :o

If you don't belive me just look at the voices and note capacity on both models.

www.akaipro.com




(But think about this, based on appearance alone, the average person would think the MPC 1000 is inferior to the mpc 2500. Due to the fact that it has 8 analog outs, 4 midi outs, and the standard pads. Not really. All these features are pretty much cosmetic. with the extra money you'll have after purchasing an MPC 1000 instead of an mpc 2500 go and purchase a multitrack recorder or a protools m-box to track your beats then you'll see what I mean :wink: )



For all you noobs and potential buyers, if you need to know more about the new os.


http://www7a.biglobe.ne.jp/~mpc1000/htt ... /translate?







Does anyone remember how the MPC 1000 was when it first came out?! I bought mine in Nov. 2004 broke as a joke. I really wanted an mpc 2000xl cus Pete Rock used one, and well im a fan, but in the end I could not finance it..... :( . I REALLY WANTED AN MPC So I had to get what i could afford. It was a shame how WAKAI brought out the MPC 1000 with LESS FEATURES than the mpc 60!!! Wakai should be ashamed of themselves! Who would've thought 2 years later it would be like this!


Who would've thought that MPC 1000 owners would have the best support in the world!!!

I'm very happy!!!! If you want to buy an MPC. Please do yourself a favor and save your money. Get an MPC 1000 with the JJ O.S.





P.S. In the end is spending the $2000 to purchase an mpc 2500 worth it? After the $30 i spent bout a week ago i came to this conclusion...










HELL NO!!!





:D
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By TeenGirlLust Sat Oct 07, 2006 12:30 pm
This is one of the the best posts ever !!!!!!!!!
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By crownroyal Sat Oct 07, 2006 12:40 pm
You Definently Are Right!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

By pantherpride Sat Oct 07, 2006 12:52 pm
Very well said :D

Every time I try to post on this subject, I get too emotional and start Sparqing conspiracy theories.

Thanks that is exactly what I was thinking.

If anyone is chillin' at Guitar Center or any other gear store, share this info with anyone trying to purchase an MPC.
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By Antonym Sat Oct 07, 2006 3:51 pm
gonna have to support this post to the fullest, and also give props to gunmetal for being a knowledgeable guy regarding this whole affair.
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By Pendulum Sat Oct 07, 2006 5:52 pm
Good call gunmetal. This OS rocks hard. If Akai had wanted to kill it they could have just released an OS 2.2 with the much needed New Folder bug fix and small number of 2500 features. By not doing that they made the JJ OS a must have item for any serious 1k users.
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By gunmetal Sat Oct 07, 2006 7:19 pm
Not a problem at all my fellow current and future musicians! I'm just mad at the fact that we indeed have HATERS lurking in our presence. You KNOW who i'm talking about!!!! I'm just very upset at the fact that when i bought my MPC 1000 (which is my first and only MPC by providence), i shelled out OVER $999.99 and YES i did my homework (hip hop music is mainly created with these machines...) before i made my purchase. I knew that from the gate that the MPC 1000 for some strange reason didn't have all the features that the older models did. There was a time that even i felt that i needed a BETTER mpc (now this is the mindstate of a novice) like an 2000xl (after all they sound warmer :lol: yeah sure! ). Most of us longtime members should remember the plethora of noobie posts pre o.s 2.01 last year. It drove me nuts!!! Regardless of all the negativity i came across being an MPC 1000 owner. I still created. In the end regardless of what offbeat beatbox i owned. I had a jones to make beats and it needed to be fullfilled. After being ragged by my cousin (a very dope emcee) about how i NEEDED an A.S.R pro (cuz it sounded better) combined with the constant complaints on this forum about timing problems (me) the lack of zoning (whatever) and timestretch (okiedokie) It made me feel like i wasted my money. Ah, sweet wisdom, how i love you.


Then all of a sudden.... BOOM !!!!!! WAKAI magicly drops the mpc 2500! and if i wasn't so piss poor, parentless, and had the 2G's that it costs for it. Hell, i would've fell head first in the bandwagon and would have truly WASTED MONEY!!!!!!

Do you know the people who i really feel bad about?


Those who sold/traded their MPC 1000's for an easier way to make beats.


There is no easy way... sorry.



I had to share this info with all the other people out there attempting to get their feet wet with producing who are lurking for the "right" answers. However this is a very sick (not a positive comment) market to get into. IF It's really easy to get your heart broken or distracted.......


Forget about using MPC's These bad boys take a min. especially if you have NO prior experience in making music. like what's a hi-hat? :roll: I went from wanting to sound like Pete Rock, DJ Premier, and J-Dilla to wanting to sound like me. And that my fellow musicians, takes WAY MORE WORK than the average person with $4000 to blow can EVER understand. I just want to also let everyone else know that:


In the end it isn't what you use.




It's how you use it.

Example: Madvillain and Donuts (If you haven't heard these albums you should be ashamed of yourself! Stop listening to the radio!!!!) were both created with an SP 303. Which by technical standards is INFERIOR to the MPC 1000.
When i found this out that let me know why J-Dilla (R.I.P.) and Madlib have music available for purchase. Making beats has nothing (well maybe 25% :lol: )to do with the equipment that you have. THE MAIN INGREDIENTS TO MAKE DOPE BEATS is: tracking, EQ, compression, mastering, and the final technique.....


LOVE







:D

Hint: Stay Sober
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By crownroyal Sat Oct 07, 2006 8:49 pm
Yo Gun Metal, Mad Respect Man. I Really Understand How You Feel. Now Only If These Other F&*ks Can Give Honest And Balanced Opinions More And More People Will Be Able To Ask Questions, Stupid Or Not And Not Feel Embarrased. Peace!

P.S. Check Me Out


www.myspace.com/giftfrom75th

By astralpirate Sun Oct 08, 2006 2:21 am
Yes, patience is a virtue that few possess. I was one of the people who had an mpc1000 in November of 2004 (bought it in Boston at Guitar Center while on tour) and while I enjoyed using it, I hated that I couldn't reverse samples (akai, thats just lazy). That feature was something I used so much, I ended up sampling into my sp-303, reversing the samples, and then sampling it into the mp from there...

Then 2.01 came and all of a sudden, reverse! Timestretch! Mono slice!? Wait, slices are always mono?? Why do my folders disappear when I save? That was pure azz... At that point, I stopped using my MPC and only used my laptop (Reason and Logic).

My MPC was covered in dust until a few months ago, when the JJ descended from the heavens above with a gift from the Absolute beatmaker... a 3rd party OS!! I'm rambling here, but the point is this:
I make beats regardless of whats going on, but if my tools hinder me by being unreliable or needlessly limited, I stop using them. I tour alot, I've released quite a few cd's, so I make music alot. I had all but abandoned my MPC (I was really gonna let me friend take it for 4 bills just because I wasn't using it). Now, I love playing with it. I can reverse! I can stereo slice! I can use the rec in as an audio thru and add fx in realtime! I can record 4 tracks of real time audio alongside my loops!!!!! $30 is the bargain of the century... Thanks JJ!! And thank you guys for your beta testing and correspondence with the JJ... it's paid off nicely.

http://www.myspace.com/thavius

'THRU' by Thavius Beck in stores now!!!
http://mushrecords.com/release.php?REAID=102
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By savilion Sun Oct 08, 2006 3:18 am
I have a 2500....I dont feel like I wasted my money.... my hands are two big for a toy like a 1000....yeah its great for talking somwhere and the os is great..........But I would never in my life use an mpc1000 as my main studio machien........ too small not enough outs...not enough midi outs ...plus pads dont break and you dont have TO USE GLUE on your mpc....YES PEOPLE YOU GLUED YOUR PADS DONT CRY...all I gotta say is when I start glueing my mpc2500 together I ll start bitching I should have went with a 1000.......


its a good machien .....just not good enough for these pimp HANDS!

By astralpirate Sun Oct 08, 2006 3:22 am
I don't know too many people that only use one thing as their main studio equipment. That being said, I bought the MPC primarily for touring... this new OS makes it suitable for standalone beat destruction... And how big are your hands if they can't fit on the 1000???!? The pads are the same size??!
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By savilion Sun Oct 08, 2006 3:25 am
P.S Donuts and MADVILLIN.....such new examples camman!......


..and gunmetal why would you by a 1600 doller machein caz of pete rock?

Shit the man has an influnce on people....!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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By savilion Sun Oct 08, 2006 3:31 am
astralpirate wrote:I don't know too many people that only use one thing as their main studio equipment. That being said, I bought the MPC primarily for touring... this new OS makes it suitable for standalone beat destruction... And how big are your hands if they can't fit on the 1000???!? The pads are the same size??!




chew talking about the pads are the same size what glasses did u have on when you looked at a 2500
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By kja Sun Oct 08, 2006 5:13 am
everybody always saying how the 1000 pads r to small..... wat if its really the 2500 r to big!!!! :?
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By gunmetal Sun Oct 08, 2006 5:57 am
savilion wrote:P.S Donuts and MADVILLIN.....such new examples camman!......


..and gunmetal why would you by a 1600 doller machein caz of pete rock?

**** the man has an influnce on people....!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Did you really read the post fam? Read it again then get back at me!

Last i checked Pete Rock's one of the coldest. 1994 The Main Ingredient

2000 Petestrumentals.... think of The world is yours on illmatic...

I grew up on that. so of course i wanted to make that.

I am a B-Boy. I love Hip-Hop. I make beats. I own an MPC 1000.

Do you understand?